Re: Diplomacy clumps

well again so many points I don't have time to reply to
all of them

>it's possible that Mike got the tele and I missed it

typical problem dealing with co-ruling countries, you tell
one co-ruler one thing and the other co-ruler doesn't hear 
it, and you never know who heard it, which co-ruler was
on, so its worse than useless trying to communicate with
co-ruled countries

>Mordor attacked several non-mountain sectors, north of the mountains, in, what
appears to be an attempt to reach our capital

That was after one of the co-rulers attacked some Mordor
non-mountain sectors, again how do I know which one, whether
it was deliberate or a mis-understanding or what???

Also notice I stopped short of destroying your country, I pulled
my punches on the mistaken assumption that you would stop
attacking Mordor non-mountain sectors.

What I should have done from a grand strategic point of view
was finish Balchoth off then and there, but I learned a lot
from the subsequent mountain war so it was more of an
educational experience for me allowing Balchoth to stay alive

>*taunting*

That's psychological projection, I could care less about
taunting anyone

>think about the situation logically. Why would we give away
>more than half of our country

I don't know, still trying to figure that out. I asked but you guys
wouldn't tell me, so presumably my friendship towards you
meant less than whatever relationship you had to your oppressors.
As for myself I would rather die on my feet than betray a friend
like you betrayed me. You chose to live as slaves and lose a
friend, so be it.

All this "technical" bullshit about NAs isn't needed between
friends anyway, so from now on anyone who even offers me
an NA I will consider an enemy.

>you might be a bit more discerning about the use of the "accept" command.

You guys were too clever for me and tricked me every time
I tried to communicate so I gave up after awhile. I should
have given up sooner and rejected you immediately the
first time you tricked me. If you were a real friend you would
have communicated with me ahead of time, that you were
no longer going to participate in the Wainriders operation, and
that Rhun was going to show up on my doorstep unannounced.


>"Told clump some lies", no, not really. Mostly we posted annos, telexes,
bulletins etc. to our allies (at the time)

I really don't know how these clumps work, do you have a website
where you all post and read information? Mith doesn't believe me
that those things exist so maybe you could explain it to him.

> *technically*, our surrender was not a violation our NA agreement

That's another reason I never want anything to do with NAs again.
All this legalistic wrangling over NA technicalities as if its some
sacred violation of the temples of the empire Gods if you forget
to dot an i or cross a t in an NA, while if the NA is cleverly
constructed enough to allow you to feign friendship and then
stab your victim in the back while "technically" being in compliance
with the NAs, that's OK, is something for lawyers, not empire players.

So I encourage other players to break NAs whenever they get
a chance and maybe we will get rid of this NA bullshit. It is like
some secret society of backstabbers where covert agreements
with your enemies are considered sacred law, and friendships
mean nothing, only legal technicalities matter.