Re: Don't bash games that eliminate players....

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 09:41:05 +0000
Peter Clinch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Matthias Knelangen wrote:
> 
> > In my opinion we should discuss games without any national interest,
> > and a thread about how to calculate the probability of certain dice
> > rolls simply doesn't belong here.
> 
> I don't really follow either of those points: national interest is
> bound to spill over to some extent, simply as different games tend to
> be played more or less in different places so it will affect the basic
> playing experiences of posters.  I suppose I'm meaning "cultural"
> rather than "national", but a country's games culture will affect what
> the people play.

I do agree that a nation indetifies a lot through culture and I think
board gaming is more important in germany than in any other country (i'm
doing my studies in france and have benn to spain too and here they
think of board gaming as of somethin boring for the "elder" generation.

> Probability is greatly misunderstood, though knowing the mechanics is 
> very useful in both play and design of games, and it's a nicer place
> to set the record straight, with context, here rather than refer
> people to a maths text.

OK probabilty is a part of game mechanics and shouldn't be banned, it's
ok to discuss it in a general way, but if there's a dozen postings on
how to calcultate the chance of "6 or 8" on 2 D6 it's perhaps a bit over
the edge.

> 
> > I agree that German games a typically short, but I have to say that
> > games where a player already knows after a few rounds that he's not
> > going to win at all only happen perhaps if you have players who play
> > for the first time.
> 
> Or if it isn't a very good game.  Everyone publishes lemons from time
> to time!

yeah and as germany produces the most games per year it's surely
producing the most "lemons" too...

> 
> > This is my very personal opinion and it's free of nationalism of any
> > kind.
> 
> But probably not free of cultural background.  And there's nothing
> wrong with that!
> 



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