Re: Evil Avatars - Killing Lord British

"J. P. Morris" wrote:

> David Bongo wrote:
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> >
> >
> > "J. P. Morris" wrote:
> >
> >> David Bongo wrote:
> >>
> >> It is said that you can kill him with a cannon in U7, but I've never
> >> been able to make it work.  (I'm using FoV so it might be U7BG only).
> >
> > I've still got to try that.
>
> This isn't LB, but remember that it's possible to kill Batlin too.
> After all, we can't have any competition, now, can we?
>
> You have to cast Death-Bolt, and it only works at the evening mass,
> possibly while he's kneeling at the altar.
> This doesn't work in Exult (unless it's been fixed in the latest version)
>
> >> As for Pagan, there are several immortal characters, Beren and Devon
> >> are the two of note.
> >>
> >> Beren, who is the guy that executes you if you do anything bad, can be
> >> dispatched by pushing him in the water, which my site details here:
> >> http://www.it-he.org/u8_beren.htm
>
> I must add that if you kill Beren, the Avatar is free to commit all kinds
> of diabolical crimes against the populace without being blown up.
> The Tempest will still be able to kill you, though.
>

Well, as I understand it (haven't played it very much) in U8 you wind up
killing everyone anyway, so why not commit diabolical crimes against them?

>
> > I'll consider him the Pagan equivalent of LB, then.  After all, isn't it
> > LB who executes you for stealing dinnerware in U6?  And don't his guards
> > execute you elsewhere in his tyrannical kingdom?
> >
> >> My brother once killed him in the sorcerer's land using Slayer,
> >> but he didn't save because all the other mages went apeshit, and
> >> we never managed to repeat it.
> >
> >> In U4, I blew LB away with the Skull of Mondain.  But he came back.
> >> Bastard.
> >
> > How did you do this?  I remember trying it on the Apple II version ages
> > ago, and in the throne room he went bananas and attacked me.  Using the
> > Skull in combat didn't work.
>
> It wasn't in combat.  I stood in front of him and used the thing.
> Bingo, everyone except the party disappears.  I was also able to
> kill 'water' by doing that too.
>
> I had a lot of fun with that skull..
>

I'll give it a shot.  Sounds like fun.  Will that off Hawkwind?

>
> >> In U6, the Glass Sword trick works because LB is in bed, and mortal.
> >> If you can get him on horseback (which is NOT a normal game event) he
> >> can die of poison.
>
> I should have added, he can't be killed except when he's asleep in bed,
> just in case you get people saying 'it doesn't work!'
>
> >> If you aren't concerned with a physical death, it is quite possible
> >> to drive LB insane, either using the Armageddon spell, or through
> >> excessive amounts of firepower. (e.g. cloning LB and making the clones
> >> slug it out, preferably behind a serious safety barrier)
> >
> > As long as the safety barrier is permanent, I see no problem with that
> > method.
>
> The safety barrier shown and described was made by cheating.  If you go
> out and steal dozens of plants, barrels and stuff it can be done just
> as well through normal game actions.
>

But it'll be for a good cause - eliminating the tyrant's influence over the
populous.

>
> > If he's busy attacking his clones, maybe he'll leave the citizens of
> > Sosaria alone.  When you stop and think about it, he's just an outsider
> > who popped in one day and just took over.  By virtue of being a, like,
> > near-immortal super-mage with the Orb of the Moons.
>
> Yes, indeed.
>
> > Overlord Chak
> > Evil Avatars
> > False Prophets
> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> JP Morris - aka DOUG the Eagle (Dragon) -=UDIC=-  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Fun things to do with the Ultima games            http://www.it-he.org
> >> Reign of the Just - An Ultima clone               http://rotj.it-he.org
> >> d+++ e+ N+ T++ Om U1234!56!7'!S'!8!9!KAW u++ uC+++ uF+++ uG---- uLB----
> >> uA--- nC+ nR---- nH+++ nP++ nI nPT nS nT wM- wC- y a(YEAR - 1976)
>
> --
> JP Morris - aka DOUG the Eagle (Dragon) -=UDIC=-  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Fun things to do with the Ultima games            http://www.it-he.org
> Reign of the Just - An Ultima clone               http://rotj.it-he.org
> d+++ e+ N+ T++ Om U1234!56!7'!S'!8!9!KAW u++ uC+++ uF+++ uG---- uLB----
> uA--- nC+ nR---- nH+++ nP++ nI nPT nS nT wM- wC- y a(YEAR - 1976)