Re: this sounds like a whine I know.....

Jim Segrave said on 12/3/2003 12:10 AM:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> az-willie  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > The problem probably is with your browser. I use Firebird for my browser 
> > ( child of Mozilla ) and have problems on some websites including my 
> > broker. Firebird and Mozilla are designed stricktly in accordance with 
> > internet standards and that causes them to fail on many web pages 
> > because they are primarily designed to look good in Internet Explorer 
> > which is not standards compliant. So web designers deliberately design 
> > non standards compliant web sites for the most common browser.
> >
> > And then to top off the problems of web sites not designed according to 
> > standards, you're running a Mac which is just asking for more problems < 
> > shrug >.
> >
> > Since the site works fine in Firebird I tend to believe it is set up in 
> > accordance with current standards and your browser probably is not in 
> > compliance. The site actually works fine in IE and Firebird so I 
> > strongly suspect the problem is your browser.
> >    
>
> Well, under Mozilla, Opera and Galeon on FreeBSD I see the following
> problems with the layout:
>
> It's slow to load. From a very well connected site (I work for an
> ISP), it's still slow.
>
> Often pages fail to resize properly and require horizontal
> scrolling. Only resizing the window and reloading the page forces the
> display not to be horizontally scrolled.
>
> The readers followups to articles are displayed in a font which looks
> to be about 1/2 the size of the article text, meaning I have to change
> my browser settings to comfortably read the responses.
>
> I also feel that requiring Flash support (and specific versions) for
> no apparent reason is a very poor idea.
>
> I do not think you could point to this site as an example of good web
> design, because it isn't. There's a lot of very good content but the
> presentation leaves a lot to be desired.
>
>
>
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While I wouldn't necessarily recommend it as a perfect example of how to 
build a site .. it works fine for browsers using THE DOMINANT OPERATING 
SYSTEM and major browsers.

I noticed that first there was a complaint because it doesn't work right 
on a Mac now you mention using Free BSD which is definitely a non 
standard operating system.

If you expect web sites to tailor themselves to people using esoteric 
operating systems such as Free BSD then you are going to experience a 
lot of frustration because it ain't gonna happen.

If you want to visit the site, use Windows and a mainstream browser and 
your problems will disappear.

It is totally unrealistic, and just asking for problems, to expect sites 
to design for FreeBSD and Macs and Windows.

I used Apples from 1984 to 1995 and changed with the greatest reluctance 
but sometimes you gotta just bite the bullet and go with the flow even 
when you think your stuff is superior, because the rest of the world has 
gone a different way.

JMHO



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