Re: Lotto Challenge - OK I have started the ball a-rolling

I have noticed some of you referring to some sort of control entry, which is
quite a good idea. To address this I have sent the following email to the
web master at  http://www.math.keio.ac.jp/~matumoto/emt.html

Hi

Currently there is a test in the process of being developed in the news
group rec.gambling.lottery where several software providers are being asked
to put their products to the test.

It would be nice if as part of this test we had 20 entries for the US
Powerball generated randomly and from an independent supplier to be used as
a control. Full recognition will be given to you and your site will be
listed.

I realise the test is not comprehensive, it is a bit of fun really, so I am
not really looking for advice on this issue, however, you can of course join
in the newsgroup as anyone is free to.

What I am asking, is if you could publicly supply 20 Powerball entries that
have been created entirely at random in the form:

NN NN NN NN NN PB

NN NN NN NN NN PB

:

:

NN NN NN NN NN PB (20 lines)

Where NN is a random number in the range 1-53 (no number repeated in the
same line) and PB is in the range 1-42 (can be contained in NN - ie it is a
different ball set)



"John Dingley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Just to add:
>
> I hope the "test" will proceed if to achieve no more than to stop certain
> individuals or companies diving in here now and then making wild claims
> about what their software or system does. THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE
> OPPORTUNITY TO PROVE IT. If they fail to join in then all I can suggest is
> that anyone reading such claims on webs sites or postings give the
> information the weight it deserves.
>
> There are literally "hundreds" of these sites out there - I would like the
> owners to come forth and be counted. If you believe what you are saying
what
> have you got to loose? If you don't believe it or cannot prove it then why
> are you saying it? Lots of sales probably does mean lots of winners (just
by
> sheer probability - depending on how numbers are chosen) but that doesn't
> mean a system isolated in this way will actually perform well for an
> individual user - that is what is trying to be established.
>
> If I were to produce a simple random number generator and "everyone used"
> it for a draw - at the end of it I'm sure I easy and truthfully claim my
> system gave a jackpot win however what need to be taken into account at
the
> same time is that millions of others using that system lost.
>
>
>
> "John Dingley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > *************************************************
> > OK folks I'd like to draw a line under this if possible - there is a
> danger
> > of getting bogged down in too many alternatives. The site currently is
> being
> > built and has as much up to date info on it as i can think of.
> > **************************************************
> >
> > The way the "test" stands I'm sure you all agree if both fair,
> > representative of what a real user out there may want to do, long enough
> (25
> > weeks - actually Robert) to give everyone a chance at getting some
> results,
> > no restrictions on the way the 20 number entry is built, and more
> > importantly gives the software/system sellers the opportuniy to put some
> of
> > their claims to test.
> >
> > I am willing to address any issue if any member thinks that the above
key
> > statement is NOT TRUE
> >
> > A game had to be picked and one was - for this purpose it is as good as
> any
> > other.
> >
> > I would like to now try and concentrate on getting members to join as
> todate
> > there only seems to be about 3 indicating an absolute willingness to
join.
> >
> > After the "test" and probably during there will be plenty of opportunity
> to
> > discuss the outcome, the way the test was run, better ways of doing it
> etc.
> > If any conclusions can be drawn I'm sure they will be, if not then even
no
> > conclutions is a sort of conclusion in itself.
> >
> >
> > "John Dingley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > http://www.lotto.fsnet.co.uk/
> > >
> > > Note this is only a skelleton at the moment. It will be "fleshed-out"
> > > hopefully as contestant gather :-)
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>