Re: Fruit Stickers-Look for the 8

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> "Jonathan Ball" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > The paranoid irrational food crazies get it wrong, AGAIN.
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> Would it be possible to reveal your source that would disprove this Metzgar
> persons credibility?

I didn't say anything that challenged her credibility. 
 It's the skanky whore Lesley's credibility that is 
always challenged.

> I am not "paranoid", "irrational", or "leftist" but do
> like to see both sides data before I make my own judgements If you do
> respond, would it be possible to do it civily without profanity? Thanks...

I'm not sure what it is that you want to see 
documented.  That the produce stickers don't contain 
barcodes?  Here is a page:

http://www.mundanebehavior.org/outburst/shiman-07012002.htm

where you can see some standard produce ID stickers. 
The first two don't look like any stickers I've ever 
seen, but all the remaining ones are very typical of 
produce sold in the three largest grocery chains in Los 
Angeles (Ralphs, Vons and Albertsons).  Note:  no barcodes.

This page:

http://www.naturalfoodsmerchandiser.com/nfm_backs/sep_03/barcode.cfm

shows barcodes that may be coming soon, but are not yet 
in use.  Read the article, and you'll see that grocers 
are very concerned with underpricing of organic 
produce, because of misidentification.

Currently, there are two possible errors: 
misidentifying organic produce as conventional, which 
grocers have an incentive not to do (immediate monetary 
loss); and misidentifying conventional produce as 
organic, which is against the law.  The thrust of the 
article that the stupid lying whore Lesley posted is 
that grocers somehow want to fool consumers into 
thinking that conventional produce is organic, or at 
least allow them to think it.  The charge is baseless, 
and all too predictably, the lying whore Lesley didn't 
offer anything to support the innuendo.  Organic 
produce in supermarkets is clearly marked as organic, 
for the aforementioned incentive (get more money for 
it).  There isn't a shopper anywhere who doesn't know 
that if it doesn't say organic, it isn't organic.

> > pearl wrote:
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> > > 12-Nov-2003
> > >
> > > You've noticed that tiny stickers that now appear on almost all
> > > fruit, and probably been annoyed that you have to peel each one off.
> > > These contain bar codes for the check-out clerk, but they also
> > > contain a secret the store might not want you to know.
> >
> > HERE we go:  the usual paranoid irrational leftist
> > belief that "they" - always some mysterious, invisible
> > "they" for the fucking loony paranoids - want to
> > conceal something.
> >
> > The stickers do NOT contain bar codes.  They contain an
> > eye-readable numeric code that the grocery clerk must
> > manually into the terminal.
> >
> > As for the "organic" bullshit, organic fruits and
> > vegetables always are identified as such.
> >
> >
> > > Nutritionist Karma Metzgar of the University of Missouri writes that
> > > these stickers also tell you if the fruit is organic or genetically-
> > > modified. On conventionally-grown, non-organic fruit, the sticker has
> > > only 4 numbers. Organically grown fruit has a five-numeral code,
> > > which begins with the number 9. Since organic fruits and vegetables
> > > now have to be in separate areas in grocery stores, this confirms
> > > that your apple hasn't ended up in the wrong pile. However, the store
> > > does not have to reveal which fruits and vegetables are genetically-
> > > modified-but you can find out by looking at their stickers, which
> > > will begin with the number 8.
> > >
> > > According to Metzgar, this means a regular banana would have a
> > > sticker saying 4011, an organic banana would say 94011 and a GM
> > > banana would say 84011.
> > >
> > > Lots of people complain that the stickers are too hard to peel off,
> > > so it may be a relief to know that the adhesive is safe to eat.
> > >
> > > http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=3314