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"Mike Avery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Part of the fun is that there isn't a standardized substance called "flour". It's > not like water, where we can specify a gathering of pure molecules of water > and oxygen. Plant genetics, growing conditions, harvesting, milling, and more > all change what's in the sack. From year to year, from sack to sack, there > are differences beyond the differences in the amount of water in the flour. This is exactly what I'm afraid of! Recipes like : 1 cup starter, 3 cups flour, ..etc are worrying me much more than the Detmolder "impossible" 3-stage process! What does "1 cup of starter" means? Is it plain grain wheat starter or is it rye flour starter? How much is it the hydration? What does "3 cups of flour" means? Is it plain grain milled at 1 or 8 (1=very fine, 8 big partciles, almost like corn flakes)? The foundamental of the repetability lies in the clear description of the adopted method together with the precise quantities of ingredients. It seems to me that with peculiar reference to weights and volumes you have advantages and disadvantages, both streaming or leading to water content problems. For sure you know EXACTLY the water YOU introduce in your dough. In this case no disputes are possible, volume and weights are identical. Concerning the flour (and therefore the starter) the volume is the same but it can contain a lot of water, the weight viceversa is falsed by the amount of water trapped into the flour. Crazy idea: is it possible to help the opposite party giving the value of the air humidity? I'm quite sure that the water trapped in the flour is directly dependent on this value allowing you to translate from cups to grams and back without appreciable losses. Of course this is only an appendix ! Before everything else, I like very much the use of clear terms (home freshly milled plain grain rye flour 4 over 8 (= mid dimension of particles in a scale from 1 to 8), industrial milled hard wheat flour type 550 (in Germany) or "0" (in Italy), etc. Luke
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