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"Kenneth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > In my experience, all is fine if things don't get too sour. Most of > the breads I do are based on the French traditions. They are not > particularly sour. I find that (somewhat) lower protein levels work > just fine even with rather long fermentations (at somewhat lower > temperatures) and/or with a large proportion of the dough from > pre-ferment. Kenneth, let's see your bread. Post pictures (well, links to pictures). Make yourself credible. So far you are in a class with "Bob". ( You should be doing some great stuff with that Bongard oven you mentioned in http://groups.google.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) >From what you have told, you seem to be well into five figures for bread-making gadgets. It seems to me you should be exhibiting a higher level of leadership at r.f.s. If you are getting good results with your equipment, which seems doubtful, you should warn that others may not get the same results as you do to differences in implementation. For instance, a chunk of unleavened dough can be blown up like popcorn on a hot enough thick enough deck, particularly if a blast of superheated steam can be brought to bear. I am still interested to hear about how Bongard superheated steam compares with he "pressure-cooker trick" you recommended for years. -- Dick Adams <firstname> dot <lastname>at bigfoot dot com
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