Re: Judges Comments

"annemarie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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> "TwoKats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>> i think the exact opposite.  i think that work is completely tied to
>> the creator of the piece, and that the merit of the work rests in the
>> hands of its maker.  if a pot had a life of its own, as you say, and
>> should stand 
> on
>> its own merit, then any old manufactured piece would do.  when i make
>> a piece, i converse with it.  sometimes i find myself planning one
>> kind of glaze for it, and it will "ask" for something completely
>> different.  my ability to shape the pot, then listen to what it says
>> as a piece of 
> artwork
>> is all based in the artist's skill.
>>
>> i love knowing what is behind a piece of work, whether it is a
>> painting, a novel, a sculpture.  sometimes knowing the artist's story
>> makes the difference in whether or not i like it.  the same thing
>> could be true of judges and shows.
>>
> 
> I think perhaps you missunderstood me to a degree.  I agree that work
> is tied to the creator of the piece.  That is essential for it to be
> good, to feel the hand of the potter/sculptor, to maybe understand
> where they were coming from, for it to evoke a response, of awe, of
> wonder, of pleasure or even sometimes pain or disgust.  That is what
> art is IMO it needs to evoke a response.
> However that should show in the piece, not in the paper accompanying
> it.  If the person has a degree, or not, whether they are already
> established artistis or not, should not be the what is taken into
> account when judging a piece.  It is whether the piece itself conveys
> the artist.  Understanding the artist can sometimes be of help
> especially if the piece is depicting pain, or just the life of the
> creator.  Umm such a big and complicated topic.
> There is also always going to personal choice and what appeals to one
> judge is not going to appeal to another, that is life and we all have
> to live with it.
> 
> 
> 

Hello discussionists

The long and the short of this discussion is that you don't have to 
exhibit or show if you don't want to. 

Maybe the best critics of your work are the ones who put their hand in 
their pocket and pay for it, be it a mug or an art piece. If you can't 
get your work into the hands of the public you might as well become a 
recluse and live in a cave surrounded by what ever you've made and hold 
long conversations with them. I really can't figure out where this semi 
religious and reverent atmosphere has come from

We have a situation here now that one yearly exhibition that has always 
been a competition is now making a fundamental change. The organisers 
have taken the prize money away to take away the competative component 
and hope to draw on a wider range of entrants who refuse to exhibit.

I would say that the majority of potters do not exhibit from one year to 
the next. This includes established and named potters

However if you do exhibit you need know and to play by the rules, that is 
if you want to make some sort of impression or to get anywhere.

Imbuing a piece of fired clay with some sort of personality or life force 
and possibly giving it a name is a croc, and is not going to do it.


All for now.

New subject coming up


John W