Re: Why is Shimano so hated by some?

Chris B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 

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> I don't think we're getting anywhere at all now.  The XTR isn't even a
> 6 bolt configuration, is it?

Shimano does sell a 6-bolt XTR disc brakeset but it's not widely advertised 
nor widely available and (back to the original point) so Shimano can sell 
more hubsets/wheelsets.
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> I don't know about you but I would expect a rotor that was installed
> properly to stay put and, assuming that the caliper was still aligned
> and functioning properly, to be expected to stop the bike+rider.  Then
> again, if people are willing to accept relying on loctite then I
> suppose I am in the minority and my expectations are unreasonable.

Agreed however I would add to your statement that for a properly designed 
system your expectations are not unreasonable.  In Shimano's case the XTR 
brakeset uses the "belt and suspenders" approach which is good for the 
users and Shimano's legal fees.  I don't believe that other manufacturers 
of disk brake systems take this approach.

ALF