Re: Bar end shifters for touring bike ?

Benjamin Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> i don't really think it's a big deal to move your hand back to shift
:> either, but the fact that you do isn't a selling point of bar-end
:> shifters 
: 
: true . . .
: 
:> it's a detriment. 
: 
: Not in my experience.

it is a detriment.  to you it may not be much of one.  we're quibbling over
matters of degree.  i don't even think it's much of one but it is one.

:> that's why so.  whatever else you say about brifters your hands are
:> already there.  and that's a plus.
: 
: Why is that a plus (for a non-racer?)  I don't experience *any*
: inconvenience.

i'm not a racer .. but i do tour "fast" & i do appreciate being able to
shift while climbing or otherwise out of the saddle.  people tour in vastly
different ways, in probably more ways than they commute.  to me it's not a
15mph affair.

: I can't see any benefit that not having to move my hands
: would give me.

you don't.  i do.  i find brifters much more convenient than bar-end
shifters (shifteurs ryan?).

: If you experience some inconvenience then it's a
: disadvantage for you, but I don't see any objective disadvantages.

well, i believe they are objective differences.  just not to a degree to
make the trade off for whatever it is you like about bar-ends shifters
worthwile.  eg, having your hands on the brakes while shifting is an
objective advantage.  how much that really increases safety is arguable
(and i will not be going there in this thread).
-- 
david reuteler
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