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"Tom S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Mike Rapoport" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Not even close to the best. I have a friend with part of one (Netjets > > share) . With the two pilots and two average size passengers and a > Labrador > > it can't go from San Diego to Sun Valley without refueling in a modest > > headwind if its warm. > > Wrong. It is a fact. > > > The problem is that at FL350 it will only go about > > 350kts and even a modest headwind at that altitude is well over 100kts. > > At FL350, it does 371 to 385, depending on weight. > Its pretty obvious that you are getting your info from their marketing materials and have never owned or flown a turbine plane. The Cessna marketing data is all based on ISA temperatures and the real temperatures in the US are ISA +10C to ISA +20C extracting a huge performance penalty. > > I > > forget which engines the CJ1 uses but the engines in the CitationJet > cycled > > out pretty fast so if you weren't flying long legs the engines would cycle > > out well before overhaul. > > Geez...since you're so omniscient, I think you'd know that data. The engines > in the CJ/CJ1 are VERY different from the old 500 series. Again you seem to be operating from total ignorance. The CitationJet uses F44-1A engines > http://www.williams-int.com/product/1a.htm > > >Piaggio and Premier are much better. > > One a vibrator, The Avanti is considerably quieter than the CJ1/2 the other isn't SP certified. > It isn't? Check again Mike MU-2
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