Re: For Fliers Only

"vincent p. norris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > I actually heard a guy on a GCA once, in near zero zero
conditions...I
> >> > forget just exactly how bad it was...but it was approach marginal at
any
> >> > rate. This guy was on a GCA final in weather up to his armpits. I
know
> >> > because I was right behind him holding.
>
> Dudley, It's a good story, but I'm afraid I find it
>  a bit hard to believe.
>
> 1. In my experience, admittedly years ago, we were instructed not to
> roger for further transmissions and to break off the approach if we
> failed to hear the controller for about three seconds.  Actually, it
> sounded like the controller never took his (her) finger off the mike
> button, which would block any calls from the pilot.
>
> 2.  If you were holding, you would be on a different frequency.  The
> final controller has a channel all his (her) own, for obvious reasons.
>
> vince norris

Your pick up is basically correct. I said final, and it was a bit before
final if I remember it exactly.
Can't speak for the violation of GCA protocols, ( I think it was 5 seconds
no trans- go missed at the time ) but I can certainly assure you that
monitoring other frequencies while stacked in close or holding was common
practice, which was exactly what we were doing on this occasion. I was
working the hold on nav 1 and my right seat was on com 2. (We were a D18
Beech) To be completely exact, most of the discourse we heard did occur in
the early part of his approach...and that was I believe, before the 5 second
no trans go missed call by the controller.
But she DID sound sexy as hell!!!!
DH