Re: Coalition casualties for November

Ivan Grozny wrote:

> "Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > Ivan Grozny wrote:
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> > > > "Ivan Grozny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > > > China has put it self into a box on Taiwan. The US is China's
> > > > > meal ticket. If Taiwan votes for independance, China will have
> > > > > a big decision to make. Forcing the issue on Taiwan will mean
> > > > > the loss of its biggest customer, the US.
> > > >
> > > > you have touched on a big future issue here. china has openly
> > > > stated that it will invade taiwan is they declare independance.
> > > > bush has stated, early in his presidency, that the usa would not
> > > > allow china to do that.
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> > > The simple answer is for Taiwan to become an autonomous part of China
> > > as per Hong Kong. They can continue to do as they have always done,
> > > but on paper anyway, the island would be returned to Chinese mainland
> > > "ownership". This would allow the Chinese to save face, allow the
> > > Taiwanese their continued freedom and get the US out of a potential
> > > nuclear war situation.
> >
> > Except that Hong Kong is being brought to heel. Its' freedoms are
> > being ground down. The same would begin to happen in Taiwan.
> > Moreover the economic capital of Taiwan would then belong to China.
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> OK. So let's get the nukes out. Whomever is left behind should dress 
> warmly so as to not be adversely affected by the nuclear winter.
> The skiing should be nice though.
   (Answered in previous follow-up) ...
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> P.S.
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> It's not about somebody getting everything they want and somebody
> else getting nothing. It's about peaceful harmony achieved through
> compromise.

Face saving on both China and US side. But on balance a loss on US side.
Doesn't invalidate my comments on your putting  a spin on the solution.
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> Couldn't be any worse than Russia and their freedoms being ground
> down by Putin.

Irrelevant. The US is not involved in any trade offs there.
(Unless you are alluding to keeping silent on Chechnya etc. in return
for a free hand (and help?) in the USA mid eastern policies)

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Rostyk