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Re: russia vs. japan in 1941 [WAS: Re: 50% of NAZI oil..]



"Stuart Wilkes' mom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> I always said Stuey would never amount to anything.

Add another one to the list of Mark's spiteful lies.  Really, Mark,
you should know by now that there's no real satisfaction in that.

Stuart Wilkes

> "Drazen Kramaric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On 23 Oct 2003 03:20:56 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart Wilkes)
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > >> What were the numbers of soldiers involved in the two campaigns that
> > >> you are comparing. i.e:
> > >
> > >Suprisingly equal, Rostyk.  I'm suprised you didn't know that.
> >
> > Post the numbers, then.
> > >
> > >> Size of armies in the west and the casualties?
> > >
> > >Well, the French Army alone suffered 1.9 million KIA and prisoners in
> > >the campaign in the West, while the combined
> > >Franco-Anglo-Belgian-Dutch armies inflicted ~27,000 KIA on the
> > >Germans.
> >
> > Your numbers are correct, but do not tell the whole story. France
> > surrendered because it had no more manpower nor space to continue the
> > war so all their remaining soldiers went to POW camps. Had you
> > included only POWs captured prior to cease fire the numbers would be
> > more correct, but would represent argument against your thesis, that
> > Red Army represented the most efficient enemy realistically possible.
> >
> >
> > >In this case, the Germans faced unprepared unalerted, peacetime-strength
> > >Rifle Divisions (~6000 men) far from their assigned battle positions,
>  which is one of the
> > >advantages you get when you do a sneak attack.
> >
> > You are representing this as 3,000,000 German soldiers appeared out of
> > nowehere next to the Soviet border. The primary person responsible for
> > Red Army been caught napping is the man you feel was justified in
> > invading Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Finland under the
> > pretext of "security in case of German attack".
> >
> > Why don't you address that fact for a change?
> >
> >
> > Drax



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