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Re: FAR 91.157 Operating in icing conditions



MEA was 9000 ft - there were other things he did also that I did not go into like
when center told me to intercept 394, so he goes looking on the OBS for 394
degrees, I told him there was no such thing as 394 degrees and they ment V394, he
wouldnt believe me till I showed him the map. then there was a few other things he
did.

Jeff

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> Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Last winter I took a flight into clouds, icing was forcasted at 10,000 ft,
> : we went up to 9000, broke out in between some layers, I was with my first
> : instrument instructor, he wanted to be in the clouds, so he asked control
> : for 11,000 so we would be in the clouds again, I told him icing was reported
> : at 10k, he said dont worry, we will be ok, we can always go up or down...I
> : told him ok, but if you kill me I will come back and haunt you forever. I
> : will tell you right now, its a big mistake to go into known or forcasted
> : icing. I wont do it again. I told him after we encountered some problems
> : that I was going back and called center. He was mad, but it didnt matter, I
> : fired his ass as soon as we were on the ground.
>
>         I don't think that this was an unreasonable thing for an
> instructor to do (assuming you weren't in Colorado at the time).  If
> you've got at least a few thousand feet between the freezing level and the
> MEA, you've got an out.  This is assuming light rime ice, of course.  My
> instructor put me in the clouds while working on the instrument time for
> my *Private* license, and we picked up a bit of ice while there.  At the
> time it freaked me out, but in retrospect it was pretty safe (at least
> 3000' of clear, above-freezing air below), and made me realize how
> dangerous ice could be.
>
>         What kills people is when they fly in it with either a disregard
> for its danger, and/or without a safety out.
>
> -Cory
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