Re: RFH: Ottawa (CYOW) - Philadelphia (KPHL)

Jay Somerset wrote:

> You will be vectored, almost certainly.  They will probably have defined
> landing and takeoff runways (listen to ATIS in advance).  You can always ask
> for an exception, but it'll probably delay your landing.

From the airport diagram of KPHL, I guessed that it might be a little like 
my home airport, Ottawa.  Ottawa usually has two preferred runways: one in 
the north field (GA) and one in the south field (anyone, but especially 
transport).  Philly seems to have a well-defined east field with runway 
08/26 and the FBO out of the way of the rest of the airport.

> > 4. How flexible is customs and immigration in Philly?  Are they easy to work 
> > with?  I can always land and clear U.S. customs at Watertown or Syracuse if 
> > Philadelphia is going to be a pain.
>
> My suggestion is to clear in Syracuse or Watertown.  If the customs guy is
> on-site in watrerown, do it there -- if he has to drive out to the airport,
> do it in Syracuse.  Waiting until you get to Plilly is dangerous, as an
> unexpected diversion (weather, engine trouble, or just a too-full bladder)
> will cause you all sorts of grief if you are expected at PHL.

That's what I'm wondering about.  The last time I tried clearing early, it 
added an hour and a half to my trip.  I've heard about the $5000 fines, but 
I'm curious about how it works out in practices.  Last time, when I was 
stuck waiting, in Massena, there was a Learjet full of Mexican racing fans 
who were two hours late (without notice or a good excuse), and they got 
nothing worse than a tongue-lashing.

> Also, do not rely on ADCUS -- phone the local Customs number for whichever
> airport you finally select.

Thanks -- COPA's really drilled that one into our heads recently.

> Not offhand -- I assume that you have current charts and airport info
> (AF/D), and approach plates if you are filing IFR.

Yep -- a big bundle at my local map store.

Thanks for the info.


All the best,


David