Re: Do the Germans or Japanese Make Better Cars?

It's funny, cuz I know a guy who worked at the Honda plant in Ontario, and
said he won't buy a Honda. Yah Toyotas are reliable, but they seem to cheap
and tinny... VWs are solid, their panel gaps are perfect, their interiors
are out of a luxury car... come on. Its a car you WANT to drive. VW's
problems are supplier related. This is even a bigger problem with American
cars, the parts are cheap... German car manfs have to skip on stuff or else
their prices will probably go up way more.

I would saw Audi/MB/BMW break down more because of the absurd level of
technology that isn't really tried and true in them. At least they aren't
afraid of the bad rep to try it out.
"AdamN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> As a lover of German cars and a driver of a 2001 GTI I can honestly say
that
> I totally agree with the JD Powers results mostly. Toyota truly is the
crème
> da la crème of quality even if some of their models are a bit boring. The
> others like Honda as well. VW's have really have major quality issues but
I
> bought my VW because I like the personality and slightly more distinct
looks
> over the cookie cutter looks of many of the Japanese models. The VW's fit
> and finish are also top notch at least initially. But ask me what to buy
if
> ya want good reliable well assembled not in the shop all the time
> transportation and I'll say Toyota or Honda hands down. Steer clear of the
> VW unless you are willing to deal with all the issues it will have. Who
> knows, you could get a good one though the odds are alot higher you won't.
> Guess I live dangerously. :-)
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> "Harry Wilke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Do the Germans or Japanese Make Better Cars?
> > >
> > > by Trevor Hofmann, auto123.com / Canadian Auto Press (December 1,
2003)
> > >
> > >
> > > German Study Turns Up Unexpected Response
> > >
> > > German cars are better right? While that might hold some credence
among
> > > luxury car buyers, according to a consumer satisfaction survey
compiled
> by
> > > German automobile association ADAC, together with the Center for
> > Automotive
> > > Research (CAR), the majority of the fatherland's car owners disagree.
> > >
> > > Altogether more than 38,000 German vehicle owners were asked how
> satisfied
> > > they were with their car or SUV and the service its dealer provided,
> with
> > > the results leaving domestic automakers Mercedes-Benz, Opel and
> Volkswagen
> > > hardly topping the charts.
> > >
> > > Contrarily, Japanese automakers swept one through seventh in owner
> > > satisfaction. The only German automaker to break the top ten was
> Porsche.
> > > Just like in North America, Japanese carmaker Toyota was the cream of
> the
> > > crop with Subaru, Honda, Mazda and then Nissan taking the first five
> > spots.
> > >
> > > In North America, German and Japanese manufacturers experience similar
> > > results. According to J.D. Powers and Associates 2003 Vehicle
> > Dependability
> > > Study (VDS), the top five positions are held first by Toyota's Lexus
> > > nameplate, second by Nissan's Infiniti, third by GM's Buick division
> with
> > > fourth held by the first German, once again Porsche. Fifth place goes
to
> > > Honda's Acura brand. Other than Porsche no German brands rank in the
top
> > 10.
> > >
> > > Behind Porsche the highest rated German nameplate is BMW in 13th
place,
> > with
> > > Audi next but much farther down the scale in 26th and Mercedes-Benz
> close
> > > behind in a rather pathetic 27th out of 37 total automakers.
Volkswagen,
> a
> > > name once synonymous with reliability and owner satisfaction, ranks
near
> > the
> > > bottom of the barrel in 33rd place.
> > >
> > >
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > The results for the local brands weren't favourable when
> > > 38,000 German)vehicle owners were surveryed about   their consumer
> > > satisfaction.
> > > (Photo: Trevor Hofmann, Canadian Auto Press)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > Just like in North America, Japanese carmaker Toyota was the cream of
> the
> > > crop with Subaru, Honda, Mazda and then Nissan taking the first five
> > spots.
> > > (Photo: Trevor Hofmann, Canadian Auto Press)
> > >
> > >
> > >
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