Re: Man shoots at noisy teenagers, killing one

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, R. Steve Walz wrote:
> Brent P wrote:

>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > In rec.autos.driving Brent P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>> Disrespect of anyone else, as long as it isn't an illegal act,
>> >>> is everyone's right!
>> >>
>> >> The me-first-fuck-you american way at it's best.
>> >
>> > For once I am in agreeance with you, Brent. I mean I am all for less
>> > controlling laws, but I do think when it affects others that's where the
>> > law should step in. If those kids were revving those cars up and down the
>> > street and causing lots of noise, they should have been punished for
>> > disturbing the peace.
>> 
>> Cops have much better things to do like collecting revenue from people
>> going 75mph in a 75mph flow on an interstate posted at 55mph.
>> 
>> > I'm not going to say I agree that the guy should
>> > have shot them, but I sure can understand why if he had tried to get them
>> > to stop and they wouldn't.
>> 
>> Yep.
>> 
>> > I mean, if you are going to advocate that it is ok to piss some one off
>> > just for your own damn pleasure, then it should be ok for them to punch
>> > right back.
>> 
>> But that's just it. For some reason US society has taken the view that
>> the person who stands up for himself is wrong.

> Yes, he's called a fucking BULLY and he's JAILED!

So you'd go after the kid who defended himself instead of handing over 
his lunch money to the kid who demanded it or else. 
 
>> In grade school on up it's
>> the same way. Fight back against the selfish assholes in any way other
>> than passing more laws and calling the cops and you're in the wrong.

> Absolutely, shit like you don't understand liberty and law, you never
> did, you WERE the bullies, and you just wanted your own way!

You certainly are assbackwards. 

Here's a hint for you, the bully is the kid that demands another kid's 
lunch money. That other kid doesn't become a bully because he refuses
to hand over his lunch money. 

>> It's just like when I holding one's ground against some selfish asshole who
>> decides to try and shove a person out of his way on the road.

> If someone attacks you, defend yourself, but making noise is NOT
> an attack, so call the police. 

You are being inconsistant. Just above you stated a person who defends 
himself is a "BULLY" and 'should be jailed.
 
>> That's it's
>> wrong to stand up for one's self and one should just-let-em-do-it.

> If you can, why the fuck not, they're paid to.

Who's paid for what?