Re: OT: Michael Elliott on Europeans vs Americans

"dave weil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:43:17 -0500, "Arny Krueger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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>> "dave weil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>>> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:27:12 -0500, "Arny Krueger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
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>>>> "George M. Middius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>>>>> dave weil said:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I get 5 weeks vacation plus 11 holidays.
>>>>>
>>>>>> And you have to know that a job like that is an extreme
>>>>>> exception, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think it's "extreme". Every company I've ever worked for
>>>>> as a full-timer gave that kind of leave after several years of
>>>>> employment. I'll bet the Terrier has been at his current company
>>>>> for at least 8 years.
>>>>>
>>>>> I only know about white-collar office work, though. I'd guess that
>>>>> you're right insofar as nobody in the retail or manufacturing or
>>>>> agriculture sectors gets that kind of benefit.
>>>>
>>>> Nobody in manufacturing gets that kind of benefit? LOL! I guess you
>>>> never heard of the UAW, George.
>>>
>>> Are you saying that 5 weeks vacation is common in the UAW?
>>
>> Please see:
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>> http://www.uawndm.com/library/contract/191-200.htm

> Thanks. So 5 weeks is reserved for those with over 20 years.

unh hunh.

> I can see that. The other figures seem in line with what I mentioned
> in my previous post.

"extreme exception"?  IME,  people with UAW jobs tend to stick with them.
You might find more than a quarter of the people in a plant over 20.

>You don't get to 3 weeks until you've been there over 5 years.

...still a relative newbie.

>It takes 15 years to get to 4 weeks.

Lots of people doin' that.  Also, many of these people are also making
$50-80K a year, working some overtime.

> Once again, thanks for the link.