Re: Some serious cable measurements with interesting results.

"Nousaine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Stewart Pinkerton) wrote:
>
> >On 30 Nov 2003 16:02:57 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael
> >Scarpitti) wrote:
> >
> >> I can, do, and did hear differences between cables. They are not
> >> earth-shattering, but they are discernible.
> >
> >They are entirely in your imagination - guaranteed.
> >
> >> I am frequently stunned by the detail in my system, especially since I
> >> got a set of Yamaha NS-1000M speakers, with their ultra-high clarity
> >> and speed. The possibility that inferior quality speakers and other
> >> components masks the differences in cables must be considered.
> >
> >I had those about twenty years ago - they're good, but not IMO
> >exceptional. You are scrabbling around to justify your opinion in
> >classic form, without ever simply *trusting* your ears in a blind
> >test. We've sen this before, several times, and those 'obvious'
> >changes *never* survive a blind test.
> >-- 
> >
> >Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering
>
> That's true; including the Sunshine Trials, the Singh Challenge where the
> reference systems that were used to 'describe' the 'pretty amazing'
differences
> were first heard.
>
> Or the Brice Trials where the subject had both comparative amplifiers (one
> which was his own) in the experimental set-up in his personal reference
system
> for 5 weeks prior to the test.
>

None of which negates the fact that if the very act of "switching and
comparing and making a choice" creates a different ear-brain interaction
than evaluative listening, the tests are invalid.  And as Mike and I and
Wheel and others have pointed out, a valid control test has never been done
by those who believe the "null results" mean there truly are no discernable
differences.