Re: The Value Of DBT

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Mkuller) wrote:

>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Stewart Pinkerton) wrote:>
>>How typical of Mirabel. Not one single person has *ever* suggested
>>that any two grand pianos are sonically indistinguishable. If they
>>were, there would be no need for piano tuners to 'voice' a piano to
>>the preferences of the player.
>>
>
>There is more going on with the sound of a piano than the tuning.  The
>analogy
>between audio equipment (amplifiers) and musical instruments (pianos/violins)
>seems valid. 

Sure there are differences in the musicality of the player. I don't, on the
other hand, see how the amplifier, other than tone or operating controls,
operator has any ability to change the sound being reproduced.

 You claim, based on the infallability of dbts, that competent
>amplifiers all sound the same. 

Only the good ones; of which there are many.

 No doubt with your beloved dbts, you would
>also
>find that "all competent" pianos and violins sound the same to a group of
>average audiophiles.

Why would anyone say that? But, now that you have, I'll bet that few 'average'
audiophiles could, in fact, reliably identify piano brands in a bias controlled
test. So what? 

  That would not be sufficient proof that they do.  
>
>It would be obvious to any virtuoso pianist that they do not (as it is
>obvious
>to most experienced listeners that amps do not sound the same).
>Regards,
>Mike

I know a great 'many' experienced listeners who not only don't think that amps
sound different but have proven to themselves that they do not, in spite, of
the mythology espoused by a few enthusiasts, journalists, retailers and
manufacturers. 

I'd argue that "most" experienced listeners do not think that competent
amplifiers sound different from each other. A limited forum like this with a
"high-end" label tends to draw more of the former group, but even here the
line-up is no more than 50/50.