Re: Clone Armies in Trek

Chris Basken wrote:

> "Graham Kennedy" wrote...
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> > I just don't get what people didn't like about this movie.
> > I don't know if I'd rank it as my all time favourite, but
> > I think it's certainly one of the better ones.
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> Well, you opened the door there...  ;)
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> My main problem was I didn't find Shinzon either threatening or entertaining.
> Khan was a khlown, but at least it was fun to watch him chew scenery and ST2
> had the benefit of tying directly back into TOS.  TNG is rich in back-story
> content, why not use it?
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> Why make up Commander Donatra when they could have used Sela?

Perhaps they wanted a decent actress? Just a thought.

> Why insist on using Worf as comic relief?

Why not?

> Isn't it conveneint that they introduce a Data-counterpart just in time to
> kill Data off?
> Shinzon looked *nothing* like Picard, and what was with the goofy picture of
> "Picard" dressed as a cadet -- with a bald head?  We know he had hair up until
> about the time of Jack Crusher's death, less than 20 years prior.
> To me, nothing that supposed to be funny was funny, stuff that was supposed to
> be touching *was* funny (and often embarrassing), and stuff that was supposed
> to be exciting was trite (for the most part -- I mean, the space battle itself
> was cool).
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> Don't get me wrong, I had fun with most of it, but it's not a great Trek
> movie.
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> I wanted to believe Generations was clunky just because it was the first TNG
> movie, FC was an example of the direction the franchise was moving in, and
> Insurrection was just a bump along the way.  After Nemesis, I'm beginning to
> think FC was a fluke.

Well, I actually like Generations a lot as well, plot
holes and all.

That's the thing that really irritates me about Nemesis bashing.
People point to the plot holes - well, there's never been a Trek
movie without them! But nobody carps about the fact that Khan's
sidekick in ST II was played by a different guy that the same
character in Space Seed do they? And nobody carps about Khan
recognizing Chekov when the two never met that we know of. And
nobody carps about how "convinient" it was that Spock mind melded
with McCoy so that they could bring him back in ST III.

It just seems to me that the fans decided to like ST II and so
ignore the flaws (which are many and large), while they decided
not to like Nemesis and use the flaws as a justification after
the fact. Because every complaint I've heard about Nemesis
applies just as much to any other Trek movie.


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Graham Kennedy

Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
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