Re: DLP showing Was Re: Master and Commander AR

Michel Hafner wrote:
> 
> Kram Sacul wrote:
> >
> > Michel Hafner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > > DLP does not have excellent blacks and probably never will. Excellent
> > > blacks are blacks that are black, not (dark) gray. The only technology
> > > I know with black blacks are high end CRT projectors. The rest does
> > > not measure up, whether it's digital or film prints.
> >
> > Well, the DLP presentations I've seen appeared to have excellent black
> > levels but since you seem to be the expert I guess I was seeing
> > things.  Sorry.
> 
> The perception of black depends on average image brightness, amount of
> ambient light, structure of the image (where are the dark and bright
> regions)... Excellent blacks in my books are blacks that pass the following
> very tough test:
> - no ambient light, black room (minimal reflections from room on screen)
> - space scene with black of space and some stars, mabe a little space ship
>   too, not very bright
> - the scene lasts long enough so the eye adapts to the very low average
>   image brightness
> 
> Is space now pitch black or a shade of gray? If it's pitch black the blacks
> are excellent. I have only seen this from top CRT technology. Laser should be
> able to do it as well. Any technology that uses a bright lamp and takes
> light away to create black will have huge problems to create real blacks
> (and that includes film projection, DLP, LCD, D-ILA, LCOS).

By the way, since the subject is "Master and Commander"... Watched it in
a 'top' London cinema. The absolute black level was poor and so was shadow
detail. There was aliasing and the picture was very steady. It also lacked
detail and looked fuzzy and noisy/grainy at times. I thought it was a DLP presentation 
(I was told beforehand it was), but some things made no sense (there were reel end 
marks, speckles, for example). Afterwards I was told it was a print after all, made 
from the 2K digital master, of course (hence the
aliasing)). Confusing. Such poor blacks from a print I'm not used to.
Anybody seen the 2K DLP screening in L.A.? How was it??