Re: Similar problem on PD150 (was Re: Major Bug in F900: Intermittents !!)

Jason Porter wrote:

> How much of an issue is this??

BIG

> I've never had any problems recording audio onto the 900...AFAIK!

Some people say that

> On the other hand...the following mesage was posted on my local news 
> group, could it be related somehow??

not related diffrent camera

> Posted by Prefer not to...for obvious reasons 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on December 01, 2003 at 20:17:32:
>
> Hey all you fellow CICA members! I am a soundman and have a problem 
> and I need your input.
>
> I have a client who is shooting on a Sony PD150. We went out to shoot 
> an interview and it all sounded fine to me (wired Tram to Shure FP32, 
> two lines to camera, monitoring 100% of the time from the camera 
> return) but the client calls the next day asking for a refund because 
> the audio is "dropping out" and "unusable".

whos camera was it?

> He claims it sounds like there was a loose connection.

protect yourself with a double system recorder even if its a cassette

> Can this be if I didn't hear drop outs or loose connections on the 
> return line? 

yes

> Is it possible that the monitoring of the PD150 is _after_ the 
> pre-amps but _before_ the recording circutry? 

thats it excactly - of course you are not listening to A-D   D-A   ----- 
please its Sony

> If so, could there have been a problem with the camera that I wouldn't 
> have been unaware of?

yes

> Has anyone experienced problems like this? 

no that I have heard of and I know  a camera team that used the a couple 
of these cameras for 12 months every day and recorded with No double 
system.........

> What can I tell this guy, short of "Well, it sounded fine to me." 
> which sounds pretty lame... 

well at least he is not asking for you to pay for the reshoot which 
legally a producer might if there is no written contract between you and 
the production.

A note on contracts ( I know sound folk dont bother - ever) The large 
studios in LA do NOT sign any contracts with any rental houses. NONE !!! 
- this leaves the rental houses ( Panavision being the lead) totally 
exposed. As Panavision is permanently in serious debt  they arent 
worried - they will just shut down if there is an expensive law suit. 
--- and this is serious. Its a corporate mentality that fosters all 
kinds of behaviour ........
w.

> John Gilman wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 02:44:59 GMT, Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> > >   Major Bug in F900: Intermittents !!
> > >
> > > We have had several trustworthy reports by fall of 2003 of short 
> > > interrupts in sound from the F900 recorded tapes on Playback.  This 
> > > interrupted sound is occasional and random. The cause has been a 
> > > mystery, no one has been able to figure it out, but it happens on all 
> > > the TV shows all the time, one camera here and there, not all at one 
> > > time, some cameras and some channels more than others. This fault 
> > > requires a double system record setup.  --- SONY is not listening!!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >    
> > Wolf
> >
> > This is a long standing problem on the Panavision cameras as well. The best
> > information I have been able to dig up is that there seems to be some sort
> > of dependency on the quality of the power feeding the cameras and the DIT
> > rack (in the Panavision situation). There have been reports that putting
> > power conditioners on the tech power sometimes helps the situation. Not
> > always, however. I'm currently working one show that has the problem to
> > such an extent that no attempt is made to use the sound recorded on the HD
> > masters for any purpose. My other show (on a different lot) has no problem
> > whatsoever. Go figure. Panavision and Sony have been trying to isolate the
> > cause for a long time and, so far, have not succeeded. From the sound
> > mixer's POV, double system is the right answer in any event. Greater
> > likelihood that what the mixer intended to record actually got recorded.
> >
> >
> >  

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