Re: Stereo mic favorites.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fernando) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> I was talking about ccm41. The whole mic, not capsule only, is housed
> on a tiny package, same size of an MK capsule and the colette
> connector.

First Fernando, thank you for your fervent position on the value of MS
recording.  I appreciate everybodies input.

I understand the advantage of the CCMs.  They just are not available
for me to rent in my area.  If i rent from outside my area i have to
pay multiple day rates to handle the shipping time.  That is not an
option for my budget.  My closest option is to use collette cables and
that concerns me for a few reasons.  Handling noise with collettes can
be a problem.  Cold Philadelphia winter can make collettes
particularly brittle and hard to deal with.

> It is not a complicated rig at all. You have an XLR5 at the handle of
> the Rycote egg to conect your XLR5 boom cable. The modular system is
> more complicated.
> I didn't use a Sanken shotgun, so I can't have any opinion on that.
> But multitrack it's the oposite of what you was picturing... that's
> not fast, that's cabling, hiding mics, find it's sweet point, or
> batteries for the wireless, derived artifacts... etc, etc.

I won't have time to plant hidden mics.  Maybe one if i get the
oportunity.

> I find two mic recordings always very pleasant and "natural" sounding.
> And perfect for such a situation (XY or MS, or even AB or ORTF for
> other scenario)
> Schoeps MS with 40 or 41 and an 8 can be great too. You can decode on
> the mixer or just tell them how to decode, it's so easy! I try to
> educate everyone I can at video post, so they can monitor in LR. Just
> a PAN and phase invert operation!

I understand, unfortunately i do not trust post production.  This
particular group in the past has ignored all of my logs and hours and
hours of stereo FX and BG recordings that were painstakingly recorded
and never made the final film.  I just don't trust them not to screw
it up.  I might do MS discretely  and decode it myself  in a studio
environment.  Mono compatability is also a major concern.


> The clip for MS on a Rycote can be, of course, be used without the
> problem I mentioned of the XY special accesory. Simply on a boom (if
> walking while recording I use the 60Hz filters)
> I made great recordings on Central Park. I had a huge truck passing by
> and I still had my caracter being perfectly inteligible. Plus the
> wonderful space around: the real acoustic landscape AND a solid
> center.
> I use ccm41 + ccm8. But may be a 40 can be better if the groups are
> more than 4 musicians. With a cardioid the stereo image is more
> netural, easier sounding.

> 
> I think using a shotgun to record a group of musicians being pictured
> on a live situation like this can sound a bit too tight, too narrow...
> don't know.

This is definitely a concern of mine
> 
> (sorry for so much MS passion)

Don't apologize, it is all good info. 

john gooch