Re: Haunted Mansion: Why the Critics Hated It

Harold Pinter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Mark Steese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
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> > Harold Pinter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:l6yyb.1083128
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> > @news.easynews.com:
> > 
> >>>> In general, Chuck is right.
> >>> 
> >>> In general, Chuck is a pathetic shill, which is presumably what
> >>> Disney hired him to be.
> >> 
> >> He's far more successful than you'll ever be.
> > 
> > This is true.  I could never be the pathetic shill that Chuck is.
> > 
> 
> 
> And you could never have his bank account.
> 
> 
> 
> >> Whether you disagree with him, he speaks the truth.  All the net-
> >> nerds do is attack family movies.
> > 
> > 'Scuse me, 'Harold,' but Chuck didn't say nothing 'bout no net-nerds.
> >  
> 
> 
> I know.  I did.
> 
> 
> >>>> People (not just critics) are so hostile to family movies.
> >>> 
> >>> Bullshit.  "Elf" is going gangbusters at the box office and has over
> >>> a hundred positive reviews at rottentomatoes.com.  Where's the
> >>> hostility?  People love the damn thing.  "Pirates of the Caribbean"
> >>> was another family movie that was a huge hit with positive critical
> >>> response, and "Finding Nemo" was the most popular movie of the year.
> >> 
> >> Wow, 2 movies in the last 20 years.  I don't count animation because 
> >> most people assume they are family movies and pretty much leave them 
> >> alone.
> > 
> > Bullshit.  If "net-nerds" don't like family movies on principle, 
>  they'd 
> > be slamming animation just as much as live-action, *especially* Pixar 
> > animation.  However, "net-nerds" dote on Pixar.
> >  
> 
> 
> No, they leave animation alone because they don't expect much from them.  
> They are the in the domain of family films.
 
?.. you saying no one expects much from Pixar movies?
 
> >>>> If a movie isn't edgy, or artistic or indie enough, people go
> >>>> ballistic.
> >>> 
> >>> Yeah, that's what people loved about "Finding Nemo" -- the edginess.
> >> 
> >> They liked it because it was clearly understood to be a family movie.   
> >> In this country, that's all animation is (excluding South Park).

try explaining that to American Fans of the multi-million dollar a
year Anime industry.

> > *Who* liked it?  Aren't you the one who think people are hostile to 
> > family movies?
> > 
> 
> 
> See the animation rule above.  Try to stay with me on this.
> 
> 
> > [snip]
> >> Every Eddie Murphy movie released has made money, so I'm not sure 
>  that 
> >> "everyone hated" them.
> > 
> > How much money did "Pluto Nash" make, net-nerd?
> > 
> 
> 
> It made much more than it cost to make. Eddie has the midas touch and 
> mvie studios know this, and this is why the net-nerds hate him.

making more money than it costs to produce isn't a very subjective
method of discerning whether or not a movie is critically "Good" or
"Bad".

i don't have a problem with Eddie Murphy, Family Movies, or Murphy IN
Family Movies - just Murphy in BAD Family Movies; which "Haunted
Mansion" happens to be.

ob