Re: Gandalf falling scene, pro/con

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (R. Cohen) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Calvin Rice) wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > Not a Tolkien lover, going by the evidence of what he has done.  Maybe
> > a Tolkien liker.
> How can you measure that?

Guessing.  The same way that people who claim Jackson is a Tolkien lover
do it.

> It's a glass half-full/half-empty argument.  Let's make a list of all
> that he did well moving the story from print to film.  

Ok.  Much of Howard Shore's music is great, in my opinion.  Hobbiton is
pretty good.  Ian Holm's Bilbo is nice.  He played Frodo in the BBC Radio
production (13 one-hour episodes), the most evocative of Tolkien in all
of the versions I've seen or heard.  Gandalf's rescue by the eagle was 
good.  Good-looking Rivendell, Moria, and Lothlorien scenes.  Good Argonath.
Nice ending of the Fellowship movie.  Ents pretty well designed.
Sean Bean's Boromir very good.  Great Edoras set.  Good Wormtongue.
Sam's speech about the great stories, spoken over the endings of the 
Helm's Deep and Isengard battles, excellent.  Sometimes beautiful cinema-
tography.  Nice look at Mordor at the end of The Two Towers.
 
> If Jackson's changes are too much for you to enjoy the film (and you
> certainly aren't alone there), then in some ways that's unfortunate
> for you.  It is a done deal at this point.

I said the movies were pretty good in themselves, as movies.  Just not great
Tolkien, except for flashes here and there.

-cr