Re: ABC News Declares "JFK shot himself"

Mike1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick) wrote:
> 
> >> If one proposes that the Kennedy assassin was, rather than Oswald,
> >
> >"Rather than Oswald" ... ? If he's not involved, then what is your
> >theory on the mountain of evidence against him, e.g., the fact that
> >the bullets and bullet fragments were a ballistics match to Oswald's
> >rifle *only*?
> 
> 
> Well, gee, Nick, if it was a *government conspiracy* and the *FBI* was 
> in on it (you know, the same FBI that's been lying about everything from 
> Hoover to Lon Horuchi) testing the rifle, I'm pretty certain they could 
> fire that gun into a gelatine tank at the test range and then replace it 
> with the bullet they "found" on Connally's stretcher.
> 
> In any event, there's still the 4 vs 6 rifling groove discrepency in 
> bullet photographs between the Warren investigation (which had 6-groove 
> "pristine" bullet), impossible with the rifle alleged to be Oswald's) 
> and the 1978 House investigation (which now featured a 4-grooved 
> nose-dented bullet -- the government was papering over its earlier 
> mistages).

This is another one of those conspiracy theories that is far from
proven. If this theory is correct, then you have to believe that the
master conspiracists let the real bullet get out into the public to
start with, which wasn't very smart. By 1978, Johnson and Hoover were
dead, so I guess Jimmy Carter and the powers-that-be in the FBI were
also agreeable to upholding the big lie. And it didn't seem to bother
them that substituting a new bullet might be a tad obvious to people
who were watching closely.

If you don't believe that Oswald was the assassin, you still have to
account for a *mountain* of evidence. He purchased the rifle that was
found in the TSBD. He was seen carrying a "package" to work that day.
He killed Tippitt. Witnesses below the Oswald window heard the shells
dropping on the floor. He was seen in the building shortly after the
shooting. He took flight from the building. No other strange person
was spotted entering or exiting the TSBD with or without a gun. No
other gun was seen. etc., etc., etc.

At a certain point, the conspiracy becomes so vast, and the
coincidences so monumental, that it becomes ridiculous to believe
them.

> 
> 
> >And there were eyewitnesses who *saw* a gun barrel poke
> >out of the Oswald window?
> 
> 
> By "Oswald window" you refer to the TSBD; most alternative explanations 
> involve several shooters, one of which was in the TSBD. Nobody witnessed 
> Oswald near the particular window at the time of the shooting, and some 
> describe him on the first floor mere seconds before it.

No saw *him* in the window, but they saw the rifle barrel. The guy who
drove him to work that day testified that he was carrying a long
package wrapped in paper that Oswald said was "curtain rods."
  
> >> professional equipped with tailored ammunition designed to cause massive 
> >> trauma so as to acertain lethality rather than injury (e.g., a 
> >> mercury-core round), then one can reasonably expect a massive splatter 
> >> of gore upon impact. Even if not, the piece-of-junk Manlicher-Carrcano 
> >> bolt-action rifle that Oswald allegedly fired was still a much, much 
> >> more powerful weapon than a pistol.
> >
> >As I think I stated before, there is no *hard* evidence for such a
> >scenario (like, e.g., bullets from a non-Oswald gun).
> 
> 
> The hard evidence is the Warren commission releasing photographs of a 
> pristine "magic bullet" with six rifling grooves when the alleged 
> assassin's gun only had four.

As stated, that is far from proven evidence. This theory has been
floating around years; if it had been proven, these discussions would
have been moot long ago.

> This is over and above the fact that it was physically impossible for 
> *anybody* to fire the bolt-action rifle as many times in as few seconds 
> as was recorded.

Again, if this had been *conclusively* proven, this whole controversy
would've been over years ago.