Re: LOTR and 20th Century Western European Prejudices

"Yuk Tang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "Hal Neintousand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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> >
> > Now, I understand that, as
> > someone pointed out already elsewhere in this thread (Devine
> > Wind), the US 'had its own selfish reasons, as do all nations,
> > especially in times of war,' to go and fight and die in WWII, and
> > that the US benefited greatly for its actions in the European
> > Theatre, gaining thereby a strong foothold in post-war Western
> > Europe.
>
> The main US objective in WWII was to defeat Germany and Japan.  This
> they did brilliantly.  The secondary US objective was to cause the
> breakup of the British and French empires.  While this probably would
> have happened anyway, the US's actions in undermining their former
> allies are discreditable, especially since one of them (Britain) still
> trusted them completely.

First of all, I said nothing about American objectives, but merely that they
benefitted greatly from the outcome of the war, as we became the current
superpower.

Secondly, your secondary US WWII objective is incorrect. Please show
documented proof that the US set as its secondary WWII objective the breakup
of the French and British Empires. Please document exactly where and when
the US undermined its allies.

I note that you employ the phrase 'undermining their former allies,' which
indicates that you are speaking of the post-war era [*former* allies]. If
so, then clearly state this. If you are not refering to the post-war era,
then avoid the use of the word 'former.'

If you are talking about the post-war era, then you can not be discussing
the US's WWII objectives, but rather their post-war objectives, Please state
this clearly.

I have a sneaking suspicion that you do not know what you are talking about,
but we shall see.


>
>
> > Nevertheless, it should be clear that the contributions of
> > the US to the European theater in particular and to the whole war
> > in general were at least as great as anyone else's, and, probably
> > on the whole greater than any other single contribution.
>
> Take all the credit in the Pacific war, but historians estimate that
> around three-quarters of German casualties were inflicted by the Soviet
> Union.  This, and the 20 million deaths that they suffered, is why many
> people give the USSR the main credit in the European theatre.
>
>

Of course we understand that the Soviets won most of the ground war in the
European theatre. That was not disputed or even mentioned. Go back and
reread my post and the stop over-reacting. Thanks.