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"JXStern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:09:51 -0600, Metaluna Mutant > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Seeing the other posts about Pipe - weed and tea, how about a list > >of things mentioned in LOTR that were latyer discoveries or from N/S > >America. > > Yeah, one biggy: > > Explosives. > > Never could quite figure that, at Helm's Deep or the gates of Gondor. And possibly Dol Guldur? At the Council of Elrond, Gandalf mentions that the White Council's expulsion of Sauron from Mirkwood was mainly through Saruman's devices. Was he referring to explosives? That would seem to go against the Istari's prime directive of using direct force against Sauron. Come to think of it, even if explosives weren't used, wouldn't the actions of the White Council constitute a direct confrontation with Sauron? -- Bill "Wise fool" Gandalf, THE TWO TOWERS -- The Wise will remove 'se' to reply; the Foolish will not--
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