Re: Could Smaug have averted the War of the Ring? <gulp>

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in 
rec.arts.books.tolkien, Mark Kicksee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Generally only mortals 
>(men, hobbits, orcs) are rendered invisible by the rings, while 
>immortals (elves, wizards, Tom Bombadil, dark lords) are not. 

Where do you read that Orcs are made invisible by the rings? I'm 
unaware of any such passage, but would like to extend my knowledge.

And where do you read that Elves and Wizards are not made invisible 
by the rings? It's true that Gandalf's ring doesn't make him 
invisible, but it's one of the Three that (Tolkien told us in a 
letter) don't make _anyone_ invisible. If you have a passage that 
tells us an Elf or Wizard would  remain visible while wearing the 
One, or one or the Seven or Nine, I'd love to know about it because 
it would put to rest a question in the FAQ of the Rings.

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