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"Douglas Eckhart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Bill O'Meally" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "RufusTFirefly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > 'Tobacco' is never mentioned in 'LotR'. You might suppose that > > 'pipe-weed' > > > is tobacco, but you might also be wrong. > > > > > > > Yes it is. Re-read 'Flotsam and Jetsam'. Longbottom leaf is described as > > tobacco. > > -- > > Bill > > Ah, but thats just the modern equivlent term used in the translation. A thing that has always puzzled me is how Indian terms like tobacco and potato got into Westron.... Okay, it hasn't always puzzled me. I never gave a damn the first 25 times I read the trilogy. > PS tea is old world, I can assure you. Unfortunalty, trade links with China > were cut with the downfall of Constantinople. > > Douglas I'd love to see your evidence that Chinese tea was among the items imported to Europe through Constantinople before 1453. Too, not to get O.T. or anything, Constantinople's loss certainly didn't much damage trade. The trade through Egypt and Syria was not affected by the event at all, and the Italian ciites had been trading with the Mamelukes for two centuries by this point. (This trade was about the only thing still propping up the Mameluke state by this point, and in 1513 the Turks had had enough of them and marched into Egypt. But they had no motive to damage the Red Sea trading routes. It was the Portuguese who blocked that for them.) Tsar Parmathule
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