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On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 21:28:35 -0500, Jack Bohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Galen Musbach wrote: > >>On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 08:32:46 GMT, Richard Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:49:01 -0500, Chris Mattern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>wrote: >>>> >>>>Um, Mao's 25. >>> >>>How does someone become a senior NCO at the age of 25? >>> >>>Even in the US, promotions aren't THAT rapid. >> >>I made E6 in 5 years -- had no clue what I was doing, >>but promotions are based on test-taking ability, and I >>had that. > >Eh? I was given E3 out of bootcamp, and given E4 about two years >later, but isn't there some time-in-rate requirement before >advancing? I mean something on the order of a few years? Started bootcamp at age 18 in Aug'83 (G.Lakes RTC); E3 on completion (after about 2 months ... I don't recall exactly). Basic Electricity and Electronics class was supposed to take another 2 months, but I finished in 2 weeks because it was self-paced and I already knew most of it. That allowed me to start A-school ahead of schedule, which required ... 32 weeks? I think. Promotion to E4 on completion, and sent on to Power School (6 months in Florida Summer), followed by Prototype (6 months in Connecticut winter). During Prototype, I took the advancement test for E5, and passed it, although I couldn't receive the actual pay until I'd completed the 1 year time in grade. Then I was assigned to a ship; where, after 3 years time in grade, I took and passed the E6 exam. Since I'd made E5 in under 2 years, I was an E6 in under 5 years. Ironically, the advancement system played a major role in my never enlisting past the 6 year obligation that was the initial contract back then. Re-enlistment normally occurs at the 2, 4, or 6 year point in the first contract, since the Navy offers sizeable incentives to people who have completed their initial (expensive) training for extending their contracts. But at my two year point, I was in the middle of being advanced and would not have received the bonus due my new rank if I'd signed before the promotion was complete. (Brevet promotions have a long tradition.) At the 4 year point, I had to choose between extending for 6 years as a technician, or waiting 2 years and re-enlisting for 4 years as a supervisor; the supervisor bonus was higher even at the shorter term, so I waited. And at 5 years, I received a promotion to duties I subsequently found myself unable to handle -- the navy doctors told me I'd be dead before 30 if I couldn't reduce my stress level -- and re-enlisting would have been suicidal. Now Page 2: Do you suffer from breast pain? Try Udderly Smooth, available at your Walmart pharmacy; several women have told me that it eases the pain of swollen breasts during pregnancy, and I always believe random unsolicited anecdotal evidence. That's Udderly Smooth Lotion, available at your pharmacy. After leaving the service in Aug'89, I decompressed for a few months and then started college at the beginning of '90; they don't even ask about SATs if you're a veteran, and I didn't have to take gym classes either. Since my main reason for going was that the Navy was paying for it (tuition assistance program), I basically took any class that interested me for the first 2 years (year round studies); when the money ran out, I was one semester away from a double major in Physics and Math, so I went ahead and finished. It was then my thought that, if Math interested me so much, I should study more of it, and I went on to Graduate School. 2 more years completed a Master's degree, but by then I was showing the limits of my ability, and the notion of continuing didn't fascinate me. Also, my father had been diagnosed with a terminal illness, and I thought it best to stay near home. Fortunately, a local businessman who had been trained in electronics in the Air Force was looking for someone with electronics supervisory experience; I had the credentials, and landed the job. Perhaps being older does make a difference, since I was then able to handle it. In the service, I was always unimpressed by officers who thought that a college education gave them a better grasp of my job than I had; and yet now I know, having received such an education, and real supervisory experience, that I didn't understand my job nearly as well as I had imagined. After nearly 10 years with this company, my main responsibilities are new product design and quality assurance manager. It can get difficult at times: Customer calls: "We're having a problem on the production line; what do you think could be causing it?" Me: "Do you have any details?" Customer: "No, all I know is that we have a problem." -- I have a low patience threshold with morons, but it's a bad idea to let the customer know that ... this is why I could never run the company myself. The "problem" was that our module couldn't pass the bench test designed for a competitor's module; since the circuitry is completely different, this would be expected by sensible people ... it passed the operational testing just fine. Many of our clients don't understand their own product requirements, which is why they can't go to a bigger company for their design work; customized customer service is what we do well. Our competition can sell the customer what he asks for; we sell him the module he needs. The trick is to make the customer aware of that without letting him know what his actual requirements are, since he could then go shopping. We also make specialized single-purpose test equipment, since bigger companies aren't interested in the lower volumes. In case anyone is wondering, I have heartburn and can't lie down to sleep; the medication just isn't as effective as it was when I first started taking it. Drinking too much coffee for too long really does cause stomach problems; who'ld have believed it? I wonder if this post is coherent at all. -Galen
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