Re: [OT][STRIPS] Great quotes . . .

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:25:51 GMT, paranormalized
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>If someone doesn't mind enough to complain aloud, in a forum where
>that is the *only* form of communication, then their discomfort bears
>no relevance to those actively discussing things.  IOW, lurkers who
>carry no advocates here might as well be fictional, for social
>purposes.  If it bothered them enough, they'd de-lurk.

While I'd admit the billion Chinese example is a little extreme for
potential lurkers, the lurkers(especially new people who are lurking
before posting which is generally considered good netiquette) should
not be ignored.  Any group that doesn't get new people stagnates, and
sadly I was in such a group at the beginning/middle of the not
worrying about the potential new people, wonder why I have much fonder
memories of the earlier than later years.

Catherine's points valid, although the AS card is way more perplexing
than the postshere where you will always have trolls(obvious ones and
unintentional ones).   While the wording of the threads could use a
little more tact, they do tell you what to expect(atleast from the
initial poster).  Usually seeing f*ck in place of have sex with or
make love to is a key that it's not going to be a real person on the
other end but an object(and a fictional one in most cases here).

A vicious cycle occurs with things like the AS card because it can
drive women(in this case) away and thus re-inforce the belief that
it's male only<especially when two of the shows I want to get are
likely not licenses since they're not manly enough - Kodomo no Omocha
and Princess Tutu>.   I've long held the opinion that the 'oppressor'
cannot know how the 'oppressed' feel, this is why I never ridicule the
few Native Americans(and sometimes others) who picket the Cleveland
Indians games since they feel it demeans them.  

Frankly, you could make a case that a lot of the highly sexual stuff
does not belong here at all - it is all ages, or certainly nothing
seems to suggest otherwise.   I remember watching two fathers who
brought there three 8-12 daughters(or friends) sitting in front of me
at the cosplay at the second Ohayocon and when some of the more sexual
stuff was done(often by the emcee/staff) you just saw the father's
look say this isn't for my daughter.  In a way, that's probably as
close of an analogy as I can come to Catherine's - the skits were done
and planned not worrying about any 8-12 year olds(or their fathers)
being there.  I know that my enjoyment of it was decreased by seeing
the disappointment(?)/shock(?) on the father's faces.

Shaun