Re: [OT][STRIPS] Great quotes . . .

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:52:53 -0500, Captain Nerd
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> paranormalized <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
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>> Gah.. And typing in English is offending all those Chinese reading
>> r.a.a.m.!  All one billion of them!
>> 
>> Don't bring in fictional people into a newsgroup.  I haven't heard too
>> many people complain about the use of pejoritives yet, though there
>> are reminders that kids could be reading this newsgroup.  Nobody's
>> complained more than a couple lines at a time, that I've noticed.
>
>   I can guarantee there are people who are offended, they just
>   don't say anything about it!  Just because someone is lurking
>   doesn't make them fictional! ^_^
>
Including the 1 billion Chinese hanging around here, right?  Just
because they haven't posted doesn't mean they don't exist! :P

If someone doesn't mind enough to complain aloud, in a forum where
that is the *only* form of communication, then their discomfort bears
no relevance to those actively discussing things.  IOW, lurkers who
carry no advocates here might as well be fictional, for social
purposes.  If it bothered them enough, they'd de-lurk.


*snip snip*
>> Comfort levels need to be adaptable, though.  Otherwise, you risk
>> being perceived as not only somewhat tactless, but emotionally
>> inconsiderate.
>
>   But I am tactless and inconsiderate!  And a "pretentious dickhead"
>   to boot! ^_^
>
Nope.  You just haven't realized that cultural rights are part of
human rights, right up there with self-expression.

And cultures need the ability to exclude or disapprove of behaviors,
otherwise they die.  Some cultures (social bullying, institutionalized
familial revenge, etc) may deserve to die, but the basic mechanisms of
cultural survival are a necessary part of human life.

>
>> I'll freely admit some people don't adapt well to differing social
>> circumstances.  And some people don't absorb emotional data well.
>> I've met some fine, decent people who are that way, and they don't do
>> very well outside of similarly-dispositioned (similarly-handicapped?)
>> folk.  You *really* have to tell them when you have a problem with
>> them, though.  It's a disservice not to.
>
>   I thought I was... ^_^
>
Nah, you were disputing the importance of complaints.  After all,
social mores are the root cause of the destruction of artwork, via
self-censorship!.... or something like that, right?   ^_^

AFAICT, what you were really doing was complaining about the very
usage of complaints, and then asserting your right to do so.  But from
an 'achieve a desired goal' viewpoint of communication, there's a...
really odd cognitive dissonance, to say the least.

>
>> However,  the "Ayanami locker room" folk don't strike me as these kind
>> of people, anyways.  Can't describe it, but they feel like a different
>> sort of inconsideration.   More juvenile and less dignified.
>
>   And in my "perfect world", no less deserving of the right to make
>   public asses of themselves!
>
But that's not enough, really.  We need *strong* mechanisms to
register our degrees of disapproval, possibly(discuss?) up to and
including shunning, otherwise their asshole-ness gets no feedback.
Having millions of socially disconnected individuals does *not* strike
me as a good idea.  So while you're taking a bunch of heat, some of it
not fully deserved, I can't say I'd stop a bit of it.  Sorry.

>   Cap.
>   (... just like me! ...)


Jonathan Fisher
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