Re: Awwwww, dammit...

"Blade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "Lord Craxton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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> > "5parrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> >> Blade wrote:
> >> > "sanjian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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> >> >>Lord Craxton wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>With [purists] we end up with WORSE problems- arrogant fans,
> >> >>>elitist, cliquish fandoms, cultures of hatred around involved
> >> >>>companies, fandoms that drive newbies away, leaving themselves
> >> >>>with stagnant populations, and good series' that have their
> >> >>>reputations ruined by being surrounded by screaming idiots. It
> >> >>>ain't worth the misery.
> >> >>
> >> >>Which are almost as bad as anti-fans who bitch about fans every
> >> >>time they get a chance, just to prove how enlightened they are.
> >> >>Do you mind if I call you Jim Taggart?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Tell me, Ken.  If one thread equals "bitching about fans every
> >> > time they get a chance", where do you rank the people who start,
> >> > say, anti-dub or anti-Viz threads?
> >>
> >> Point of information 1: see above - "almost as bad". Which I don't
> >> really agree with, because...
> >>
> >> Point of information 2: anti-dub threads argue against a practice.
> >> Anti-Viz threads are slightly more difficult to define, but tend to
> >> focus on Viz's practices rather than the company itself. I don't
> >> see them making such assertions as "people who only watch dubs
> >> don't belong in this group". David Watson is more inflammatory, but
> >> he's still pointing his slings and arrows at an external
> >> organization rather than people here. I wouldn't say they're
> >> _healthy_, but hear me out.
> >>
> >> The bitching-about-fans threads, OTOH, evince clear animosity
> >> towards a segment of this newsgroup. Carried to their logical
> >> extension, the attitude they represent is "this is our sandbox; we
> >> don't want you here" - which is far more harmful to the group IMO.
> >>
> >
> > Well, assuming that's true, and considering also my experience on
> > AFSM, one contigent is going to push the other out eventually, so
> > why shouldn't I play to win?
>
> Don't go there, or you WILL be a troll.  I've been on these groups since
> 1996 or so (when my "contingent" barely existed); there isn't a class war
> going on, and in fact this is in most respects a very civil newsgroup.  I
> don't mind ranting against the fanboys when there's a specific reason,
> but trying to start something to push a group of people out of this group
> is wrong, and I doubt you'll get much support for it even from people who
> are generally like-minded to you.  Certainly I wouldn't.
>

I know that, I was just pointing out the absurdity of the notion that this
is an (us v. them issue).

...

...or am I bluffing? ~_^

                                                        -Lord Craxton