Re: Awwwww, dammit...

"Lord Craxton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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> "5parrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>> Blade wrote:
>> > "sanjian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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>> >>Lord Craxton wrote:
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>> >>>With [purists] we end up with WORSE problems- arrogant fans,
>> >>>elitist, cliquish fandoms, cultures of hatred around involved
>> >>>companies, fandoms that drive newbies away, leaving themselves
>> >>>with stagnant populations, and good series' that have their
>> >>>reputations ruined by being surrounded by screaming idiots. It
>> >>>ain't worth the misery. 
>> >>
>> >>Which are almost as bad as anti-fans who bitch about fans every
>> >>time they get a chance, just to prove how enlightened they are. 
>> >>Do you mind if I call you Jim Taggart?
>> >
>> >
>> > Tell me, Ken.  If one thread equals "bitching about fans every
>> > time they get a chance", where do you rank the people who start,
>> > say, anti-dub or anti-Viz threads?
>>
>> Point of information 1: see above - "almost as bad". Which I don't
>> really agree with, because...
>>
>> Point of information 2: anti-dub threads argue against a practice.
>> Anti-Viz threads are slightly more difficult to define, but tend to
>> focus on Viz's practices rather than the company itself. I don't
>> see them making such assertions as "people who only watch dubs
>> don't belong in this group". David Watson is more inflammatory, but
>> he's still pointing his slings and arrows at an external
>> organization rather than people here. I wouldn't say they're
>> _healthy_, but hear me out. 
>>
>> The bitching-about-fans threads, OTOH, evince clear animosity
>> towards a segment of this newsgroup. Carried to their logical
>> extension, the attitude they represent is "this is our sandbox; we
>> don't want you here" - which is far more harmful to the group IMO.
>>
> 
> Well, assuming that's true, and considering also my experience on
> AFSM, one contigent is going to push the other out eventually, so
> why shouldn't I play to win?

Don't go there, or you WILL be a troll.  I've been on these groups since 
1996 or so (when my "contingent" barely existed); there isn't a class war 
going on, and in fact this is in most respects a very civil newsgroup.  I 
don't mind ranting against the fanboys when there's a specific reason, 
but trying to start something to push a group of people out of this group 
is wrong, and I doubt you'll get much support for it even from people who 
are generally like-minded to you.  Certainly I wouldn't.  

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