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Sea Wasp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > S.t.A.n.L.e.E wrote: > > > > Q's power is only limited by the Council, AFAIK. > > He can grant any wish. Who knows what he can do? > > He can probably exist outside the given universe, > > maybe even create his own universes, so that means > > he has more energy than the whole universe contains > > (Goku is probably limited by that; > > can he have more energy than the universe he's born in?) > No. > Super Saiyajin Stage X+1, where X is just below the level where he > can beat you. This is Goku we're talking about. If he needed that much > energy, he'd get it somewhere. > Not before his (intelligent) opponent killed him. Remember, Freeza could have killed Goku hundreds of times over before he went Super. > Ki power has the annoying characteristic that it can block ANY other > power; you can't handwave him away without battering down his defenses > first (otherwise magicians would deal with Goku very easily, but they > don't). Proof, please? The only time I recall him up against Magic was during the Buu saga; Babidee had no problem magically teleporting Goku around and would have been able to kill the Z-Warriors at a distance if he'd known where they were. And Vegitto wasn't able to resist Buu's transformation spell (granted, he's not quite Goku, but there's no evidence Goku would have been able to resist it any better). By all accounts, Goku is as vunerable to magic as Superman. I don't think Goku could beat Galactus, even if/though he is a million times more powerful than the Big G: having greater quantities of power doesn't count as much as being able to USE it in much greater ways... Dex
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