Re: Dylans opinion on bootlegs

volkfolk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "Jperdue4" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > Subj: Re: Dylans opinion on bootlegs
> > Date: 12/1/03 6:46:32 PM Pacific Standard Time
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (a.percy)
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jperdue4 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:51 AM
> > Subject: Re: Dylans opinion on bootlegs
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> >
> > > >>Bob's the most bootlegged artist bar none.
> > > >
> > > >Me and The Grateful Dead had a good laugh it this..
> > > >:)
> > > >JonP
> > >
> > > Addendum, Jerry Garcia is probably the most bootlegged individual
> artist.
> > All
> > > the dead shows, all the solo bands he had etc..The bluegrass bands,
the
> > stuff
> > > he played on others albums etc...
> > > JonP
> >
> > Oh you may jest Jonp, but....
> > Discount the stuff  that Jerry played on other albums.
> > Strickly speaking any unlawful copies of an official album is what's
known
> > as a "Pirate", not a bootleg.
> > The Grateful Dead? Popular in certain circles, I agree, but not on the
> same
> > global basis as his Bobness.
> > Go to any record fair anywhere and see how the Dylan sections compare to
> > anyone else in sheer quantity.
> > Compare the size scale of venues Bob fills regularly through the world,
> > compared to the Dead's college campus circuit.
>
> College Campus circuit? Your joking right? The Dead are the most
successful
> touring act of all time. They hold (held?) the record for the most sold
out
> shows at Madison Square Garden, The Spectrum in Philadelphia and probably
> lots of other large venues. The did very well touring Europe as well.
Check
> out box office grosses from the late 80's -95' The Dead were consistently
in
> the top 2 or 3 concert acts in overall earnings
>
> > Bob's huge in Asia and not just Japan. I know 'cos I worked there for
> years.
> > Bootlegs galore can easily be bought in normal retail stores. They don't
> > care over there. The Grateful Dead - they've never heard of them, so
> that's
> > two thirds of the planet.
> > There's very few shows of Bob's that hav'nt been recorded by fans and
I'm
> > certain he's played considerably more shows from 1961 to date than the
> Dead
>
> The Dead played approximately 100-150 shows per year from 1967-1995. That
> doesn't count Jerry Garcia Band shows or side projects from other band
> members. When you consider the fact that the Dead actually encouraged
their
> fans to record their show and Bob is on the record as not condoning
audience
> taping and actively trys to stop it, I would be very surprised to find out
> that there are more Audience "Bootleg" recordings of Bob D than the Dead
>
> Scot

Scot, what promoter in his right mind would put an act in a venue like MSG
or The Spectrum and not expect it to sell out? The Dead were only of any
consequence at all in the USA. Put it this way, their most successful album
In The Dark (and I wish they'd kept it there `cos it's terrible) since Blues
For Allah, peaked in US at no.6, whereas, in their 2nd most popular region,
the UK, the album got to a dizzy 57. Says it all doesn't it. The Dead were
not too big a deal outwith USA. Throughout their time only 4 of their albums
even got in the top 100 in UK.
The biggest box office earners from late `80's to `95? Where in the states
only? Certainly nor anywhere else.
Where were they in box office results when Led Zeppelin, The Who and the
Stones were really going for it?
What about Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, Elton John, Phil Collins with huge
sell-out global tours during this period.
But I realise this is not the point. A tally needs taken.

Cheers,
Andrew