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I love fenders too. The Fender "Jr" series amps use el84's. The Pro Jr., Blues Jr. etc. I think the devilles use them too. My pro Junior is loud enough to cause me decent ear damage, I figure that's loud enough. -Paul "Greg D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Pt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 03:16:20 GMT, Greg D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>That said, I heard a jazz guy in a music store playing through one of > >>theose Traynor 40W, 1x12 amps in cool ruby tolex a few weeks ago and was > >>floored by the tone. I'm not sure what kind of tubes it uses, but had he > >>not bought the amp right then and there, I probably would have. > >> > >>Greg > > > > > > Greg, break down and try a Marshall with EL-34's. > > > > Pt > > > > Pat, > > My first real amp was a 70's model Marshall Lead 100W amp, no master with > dual 4x12 cabs fileld with Celestion greenbacks and a Sholtz power soak. > Great stuff, but heavy and loud. Wish I still had it for the value alone, > but nowadays I am a Fender addict - relatively lightweight, loud enough, > good clean tone, and loves pedals. If I can't carry it with one hand, I > won't buy it. > > Greg
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