Re: Oh no -- Ryche looking into Mindcrime 2 ? -- and some Threshold news

"Rager93" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brent Wiescamp
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > And it doesn't sound
> > like it would be O:M II either. I'm with Phil -- DeGarmo would
definitely
> > have to be an integral part.
>
> Seems doubtful at this point that he would be though.  With each new
> interview it seems that DeGarmo had less and less to do with Tribe.
> Makes me wonder if at some point we're going to read that DeGarmo had
> absolutely nothing to do with it.
>

That actually kind of pissed me off a bit. Some of the better songs on Tribe
are DeGarmo tunes. Although I must admit it's been about a month since I
bothered to plug it in.

> > [Interviewer] I had wondered because it would seem like you would people
yelling "Play Lady Wore Black!"
> > and screaming at you ever other night. Does that say less about the
music than it does about the fans wanting
> > to maybe relive some part of their life? Is it impossible to for
Queensryche to release a record at this time
> > that could ever approach the success ofEmpire or Operation Mindcrime?
>
> > [Geoff Tate]  Well, it is impossible because people have lived with
those albums for years and years and years.
> > They are in a situation where they don't know the new songs, and it
hasn't been a part of their lives-
>
> This I totally disagree with and his logic is flawed.  If this was the
> case then explain the ever increasing popularity of Queensryche's music
> from the EP-Empire.  At some point each successive QR album was "new".
> So how come the fans didn't reject the new songs on Empire because it
> hadn't been a part of their lives like O:M or RFO had?
>

I took it as him resigning himself to the fact that the people that were
into O:M and Empire weren't into PL, HITNF, Q2K, and Tribe. PL I take
exception to but other than that I think that's what happened. The fans that
were into O:M were the fans that had followed them from the beginning,
mostly, and had been with the band for years. Dunno. Maybe I read it too
much on the surface.

> > that's
> > basically what music is-the soundtrack for your life. It's the thing
that gets you through to the next day.
> > When there's a problem, you just listen and take your mind off of what
was going on around you, and once
> > you do that, the song or record is in your heart.
>
> For me this is exactly what music is.  I can track my entire life
> through music.
>

Yup. Me too. There are certain songs that can even invoke smells, tastes,
and overall moods from years past. Flashbacks can be weird.

>
> > The new stuff can't even compete with it no matter how good it may
be-that's true even if the stuff you do right
> > now is considered the most brilliant stuff you ever did ten years from
now.
>
> This is just flat out bullshit, and more than a bit condescending.
> Basically what he's saying is that Queensryche fans are just stuck in
> the past and blinded to the "brilliance" QR latest material.  So then
> explain to me how bands like Tool, Disturbed, Evergrey, Evanescence and
> many others are rivalling Rage for Order and Mindcrime in the my
> musical catalog and Tribe, Q2k and HitNF don't?
>
> Keep digging your grave Geoff.  Pretty soon you'll alienate every last
> fan this band still has....which based on Tribe sales and Concert
> attendance figures at a whole lot at this point.

Yup. It'll be somewhat interesting to see if they can somehow resurrect
themselves.