Re: Oh no -- Ryche looking into Mindcrime 2 ? -- and some Threshold news

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GoPack!!
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "Rager93" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:061120031701172423%
> 
> > > If they breakup jump to the Lacuna Coil camp.
> >
> > Sorry forgot to mention, I've definitely taken that lead.  LOVE Lucuna
> > Coil.  I have Comalies and In a Reverie.  I prefer Comalies but I
> > definitely dig this band.  Not as much as Evanescence but they are
> > indeed pretty similar.
> > >>>>
> 
>   Kickass !!  I dig em.  

Me too.  :-)

>   They are not in my top 10 favorites, 

Hmmm...they might not make my Overall Long Term Top 10...yet.  But in
the last several months I've spun.Comalies...hang on let me check my
iTunes.....21 times.  :-)

>   but they are
> something I listen too on occasion when I need a change of pace.
> 



> Did you ever check out Dead Soul Tribe?  

Never got a chance.

> I was wondering what you thought of
> them.  They were another band I recommended to you a while back.  

Yep I remember.  

> I thought
> you might dig them because they have a Toolish sound. 

Well anything with a Toolish sound is probably going to at least be to
my liking.  :-)

> If you were never
> able to sample them to begin with - send me your address and I'll burn both
> their discs for you.

Dude that is just too cool of you.   However, I feell like you, Rox,
Greg and Shaye have "given" me too much music already and I have yet to
return the kindness.   I'll check 'em out and if it seems like
something I'd really dig I may take you up on it or just buy the disc. 
iTunes Music Store here I come. ;-)

BTW  have all of you Windows user downloaded your free copies of iTunes
for Window (XP and 2000)?  Now you'll be able to see what you've
missin' out on for the past couple of years. ;-)
> 

> > > Other things have caught my attention.  Lanfear, DGM,
> > > Balance Of Power, Brainstorm, and the new King Diamond have me pretty
> > > occupied.
> >
> > BoP is on the "to Buy list".
> > > >>
> 
> BoP is quite good.  I hope you can deal with some early Tate impressions.
> That's the only negative for me.   The songs themselves are good.  Overall
> I'd give this disc a B.

Well if it's just a dead ripoff of Tate it might bug me but I tend like
Tate-esque vocals.  Hence my love of Warrel Dane.  

> 
> I'm suprised myself, but King Diamond's new on - The Puppet Master -- is my
> #1 disc of the year so far.  Now I've always been a fan of KD, but I sure
> didn't expect anything like  Disc Of The Year material.

I'm seriously intrigued based on you assessment of the quality and lack
of KD signature falsetto.  I just could never get past it with the old
Mercyful Fate and KD stuff.  

> 
> Also, when Greg from NJ says he likes it - when he's never been a KD fan -

Another reason I'm seriously intrigued by this new KD disc.

> you know it's got to be good.   I never would have figured that he would
> give it chance to begin with.  Excellent stuff from the old pro !!

Sounds like I should at least give this a chance.

> 
> KD has settled into an Alice Cooper style voice sound, 

This might be blasphemous but I never really like AC that much.  <shrug>

> with just a little
> falsetto these days, and it really works.  The voice probably isn't quite
> the turnoff that it used to be for some.
> 
> I just find it refreshing that a dude like KD, who had seemed to be way past
> the glory days could come out with something this good - so late in the
> game.
> 
> Maybe there is hope for Queensryche yet -- doubtful !!

LOL!!  Hey you never know.  

> 
> > >
> > > Not bad for rock radio, but I can definately live without them.
> >
> > If Maynard James Keenan had to make a choice between A Perfect Circle
> > and Tool, I'd definitely say I could live without A Perfect Circle.
> > Lucky for me he doesn't have to make that choice. :-)
> > > >>>
> 
> Check out some DST.  You might find their material right up your alley.

Will do.

[re: Nevermore's new album]
> > >
> > > I told you to watch out for this one.
> >
> > Yep you did.  But I do consider myself a full blown Nevermore fan and
> > when I realized it was already Novemenber I still hadn't picked up EoR
> > I felt downright guilty.  :-)
> >
> > > It's painful to listen too.
> >
> > That openning drum part is more painful to listen to than the openning
> > to Falling Down.   I nearly pulled a Synthuser and flung the damn disc
> > out of my moving car window.  Fucking appalling.  Van Williams drum
> > sound on Dead Heart is just so perfect...to hear this is almost more
> > than I can bare.<<<<<
> 
> 
> I have no idea what these guys were thinking when they made this disc.  Some
> people would have you think this is disc of the year or something ;)   (greg
> .. cough .. cough).

Definitely not going to come close to the Top 5....might not even make
my Top 10.  And even if it does make my Top 10 it'll still be #1
dissappointment of the year for me.  I was expecting so much better
after Dead Heart.  

> 
> 
> >
> > > It's so non-catchy,
> >
> > From the first spin I definitely noticed a lack of "hooks" and a nearly
> > atonal disonance to the entire record.  I think that was intentional,
> > and that's why even if the production on this album was as good as Dead
> > Heart I still wouldn't like as much.<<<<
> 
> I don't think the material on EOR is anywhere near as good as DHIADW or DNB
> no matter how you slice it.  

Pretty much agree but there are definitely some diamonds in the rough
on EoR.


> They could polish that turd up, and it would
> still stink.  That's maybe a bit harsh, but after several spins, and about a
> month of playing it - I put it on the shelf and haven't revisted it since.

LOL!!  Overly harsh IMO but I understand your frusteration.
> 
> 
> >
> > Dead Heart is easily my favorite.  DNB which just got as well is
> > excellent and the more I hear the more I like.  The song DNB may be my
> > favorite Nevermore song.  EoR definitely some good stuff but the
> > production is tough to get past and the song just aren't as catchy.
> >
> > Later
> > Phil<<<<
> 
> Phil, I would have to say that DNB is right up there with my favorite
> Nevermore songs as well.  It really reminds me a lot of classic Ryche.

Yep.  Danes vocals are so good on that song and very reminscient of
Tate  I just can't help but spin twice every time I listen to that
song.  

> 
> I also would rank Dead Heart as my faovirte Nevermore disc.

Sweet!!  I got the impression that hard core Nevermore fans think
DHiaDW is weak and too commercial for Nevermore.  I think it's just
quality all the way around.  Great great disc.

Later
Phil
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