Re: fuck

in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mickey Finn at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/1/03 7:25 PM:

> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 15:16:38 -0500, massivegrooves
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> And soon we will see something similar to what appeared on an episode of
>> South Park...the shit episode ;0)
> 
> Actually, South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut just aired for three
> nights in a row on Comedy Central...unedited.

Quite late at night though also...not in primetime.


> 
>> If it invades network Tv I think it is a bad thing...we don't really need
>> that to further drive home any points IMO. I don't have a huge fucking
>> problem with that fucking word, but if it fucking starts showing up all the
>> time just for the fuck of it then I think it is a little much and pretty
>> fucked up...you know what I mean ;0)
> 
> But it's just a word. And any word that gets used too much will be
> become annoying. 


Which is what I was getting at with the South Park shit episode referenece
where it was said like 163 times (think that is the right number) and by the
end of the episode it was beyond ridiculous (and yes annoying.)

Thing is once you open the gates it starts a flood. An occasional shit, ass,
etc.. I don't have a problem with. But if it turns in to a flood of cursing,
and likely cause they can and think it is cool or has some shock factor,
etc.. then it is lame. Network tv (the free stuff, NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX) needs
to stay fairly clean IMO. There is enough of the other stuff on the cable
channels. Tv is filled with violence already, most of the most popular shows
are all the crime drama shows that have flooded the market and are just a
clone of a clone of a clone, etc.. So add to that the okay for anything goes
language wise and it just gets worse. I just don't see the need for it (in
the language and the clones lol..) as I think reality is realistic enough
and we don't need to strive further and further to make network Tv more
realistic. 

I guess I just see this (okaying fuck) as just a further nose-dive for the
Tv industry and knocking it down another notch. Really not that much good on
anymore, and little that I think is really creative and doesn't take all the
obvious short cuts (violence/sex/language) to try and gain an
audience/ratings. I guess I just it becoming comonplace to drop F-bombs all
night long on Tv with something like this...

Just not impressed with the decision really and see it as a another step
down the drain...

Granted what you say below is true...it is just a word. But most of the ways
used or it is thought of when heard are not really that positive.


Greg






>I am curious however, as to why we have certain words
> that are considered "bad words" anyway. I mean, where did it start? I
> picture someone from the days of yore putting letters together and
> coming up with "fuck". Somewhere down the line someone decided they
> didn't like the sound of it, and now we have "bad words".
> 
> And I don't disagree with the point the FCC is trying to make by
> saying that "fuck" can be used in many different ways (think Carlin),
> and not all of those ways are considered "offensive". After all, we
> teach our kids that "ass" is only acceptable when it is used to
> describe a donkey.
> 
> So what do we do? We create slang words for the words that are
> considered "offensive"...such as "darn" for "damn". I mean, why is it
> more acceptable to use darn when the meaning of it is the same?
> 
> And if I make up a word right now, could it be considered as "off
> limits" in the future?
> 
> I think just being alive is difficult enough...without the added
> confusion of not being allowed to pronounce a certain arrangement of
> letters.
>