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Re: The government refuses to answer a simple yes or no question.



Dale Eastman wrote:

> Arthur L. Rubin wrote:
>
> > Dale Eastman wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Brian Rookard wrote:
> >>
> >>>Dale Eastman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Richard Macdonald wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>1) Should I use the rules found in 26 USC § 861(b) and 26 CFR § 1.861-8
> >>>>>>(in addition to any other pertinent sections) to determine my taxable
> >>>>>>domestic income?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Was that a yes, or a no?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Such questions cannot be properly answered as yes/no.
> >>>>
> >>>>Either a taxpayer uses those sections or they don't.
> >>>>Sure looks like yes or no WILL properly answer that particular question.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Describe the taxpayer (where does he live, where does he earn his
> >>>income, etc.) ...
> >>
> >>Obviously everybody posting on the pro 861 side of the arguments must be
> >>foreign nationals. Malloy and Rubin from California, Maffia from
> >>Washington state, Evans from Pennsylvania, Shockly from Mississippi,
> >>Myself from Wisconsin.... Yep, Foreign nationals all.
> >>
> >>And of course the part of the question that tells us nothing what so
> >>ever about the income, "to determine my taxable domestic income?"
> >
> >
> > Define "taxable domestic income".  It doesn't appear in the law or
> > regulations.  (I'm afraid I missed that the last time I answered the
> > first two questions.)
>
> Ed Senter Jr. It's not even debatable anymore.
> http://home.sprintmail.com/~dalereastman/misc/eiasmf.html

Quoting that page:

The loquacious and astute Ed "Master Wordsmith" Senter fulminated the following words.

"TAXABLE INCOME does not mean INCOME THAT IS TAXABLE."

Since TAXABLE INCOME does not mean INCOME THAT IS TAXABLE,
according to  Mr. Ed's rapier command of the semantics and syntax of the English 
language,
one can only deduce that,

TAXABLE INCOME does mean income that is NOT TAXABLE.

End quote.

Is totally bogus, and if you don't know it, I don't know how I can
convince you.  On the other hand, it goes well with your

"Gross income can include excluded income".
"Wages are gross income"
Therefore:
"Wages can be excluded income."

argument.






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