100 times better then mutual funds - Please do not respond and provide free advertisement to scams

Hi Rumery,
I will tell you why your strategy will not work consistently. Please
see below.

Note:  I will not respond in future to this thread.  All we are doing
by posting responses to Mr. Rumery is to provide free advertisement to
this scam. More the number of posts in this group, more people get to
see Rumery's claim and hence higher the possibility that more people
will get duped by this scam.

Your strategy expects us to buy heating oil futures when the price is
less than the price of Crude futures.   Everybody that took your
course and every professional energy trading firm can do this if the
end results are guaranteed every time.  So, the price is arbitraged
away immediately and the Heating Oil futures price should go up
immediately (increased demand) and Crude Oil futures should go down
and market should become efficient immediately.

So, your strategy will succeed if only a few select individuals are
aware of this strategy and only if the strategy works everytime.
So, your best bet is to not share this strategy with any one else, so
that you can make money for your account.  Obviously you are not doing
that.  Instead you are trying to make money by selling the strategy
which is bound to fail at times and succeed at other time.  Over time
this will be 50/50 for success versus failure.

The strategy is not guaranteed to produce profits,  no one can predict
future demand and supply for crude versus heating oil.  It is not
guaranteed that heating oil futures will go up above crude futures
before the expiration of your futures. So, your strategy will succeed
some times and will fail at other times.

This is exactly why we are all in mutual funds.  Otherwise we would be
betting in individual stocks.

Paddy  


"NewYorker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> May I ask how many times Heat Price < Crude happens in a year?
> 
> "Rumery"
> 
> > Earn 25% to 50% annually with less risk then most mutual funds!  There are
> a lot of claims out there but once you start reading the material, you find
> that nothing is offered to back up the claims until you actually purchase
> something.  I am going to fully explain how these kind of returns can be
> possible and by the time you stop reading this, you are going to say "Wow!
> I should have been doing this long ago!"
> >
> > So with that said, let's get started.
> >
> > Crude oil comes out of the ground (it gets better).  There is a cost
> associated with taking crude oil out of the ground, refining it and then
> bringing it to market.  This cost is reflected as a price per barrel.
> >
> > Heating oil (as is gasoline), is a derivative of crude oil.  There is a
> further cost of extracting heating oil from the crude and then bringing it
> to market.  This total cost is reflected as a price per gallon.  1 barrel
> equals exactly 42 gallons.  At the time of this writing, crude oil is
> trading at $29.74 per barrel.  Heating oil is trading at .82 per gallon.
> Simply multiply this price by 42 and you can compare the price of heating
> oil per barrel with the price of crude oil.  It comes out to $34.44 per
> barrel.  And, this makes complete sense.  Heating oil should be priced
> higher on the retail market then crude oil.  And, for the most part, it is.
> >
> > However, every now and then, short-term supply and demand factors actually
> REVERSE the price of these two markets!  And when it does, the simple laws
> of profit REQUIRE this temporary situation to correct itself over time.
> And, every time, without fail, this price inversion has occurred, it has
> corrected itself.  Think about it.  How long can any company continue to
> profit from selling heating oil at a lower price then what it costs to
> provide crude oil?  101 economics.
> >
> > How do you take advantage of this opportunity?  You simply buy heating oil
> and sell crude oil.  Whether the markets go up or down or sideways,
> eventually, the price inversion will correct itself and you profit from the
> spread increase.  Let me give you an example:
> >
> > Crude oil is at $20.00 per barrel.
> > Heating oil is at $19.85 per barrel.
> > Buy heat, sell crude creates a spread of -.15.
> > 6 months down the road, crude oil is at $22.00 per barrel and heat is at
> $24.00 per barrel.  You lose $2.00 per barrel in crude oil but make $4.15 in
> heat.  Total profit is $2.15 per barrel.  Since these trade in 1,000 barrel
> increments on the futures market, the total profit on the trade is
> $2,015.00.  It costs less than $1,000 to put this trade on with most
> brokerage houses that allow futures trading.
> >
> > The average $$ spread between these two markets is approximately $4.40 per
> barrel!  This means that if you were willing to hang onto this spread from
> an inverse price point to the average spread over the last 20 years, you
> would see a profit of at least $4,400 on a $1,000 investment.  Investing
> doesn't get any better then this...for those who know what to look for.
> >
> > I have given you one scenario, and there are many, many more very similar
> to the logic of this incredible opportunity...if you know what to look for.
> For example, how many of you bought Enron on its way down thinking that you
> were getting a great price?  What happened?  I don't care at what price you
> bought Enron, you didn't get a great price!  Enron went to zero.  Stocks can
> do that.  But what about...oh, say...crude oil?  If the price of crude oil
> takes into consideration the cost to bring it to market, then it only makes
> sense that the price of crude oil will always be GREATER then that cost!
> Right?  Of course.  But guess what.  There have been times in the past where
> the price of crude oil dropped below that cost!  We all know it is not going
> to zero (unless of course, there is a freak world wide disaster, in which
> case you can kiss all of your money goodbye anyway).  Crude oil is a
> commodity.  It is not going to go bankrupt.  So you tell me, which would be
> a better investment?  Crude oil at its cost of production, or Enron at $1?
> >
> > All commodities act similar.  Most brokers say that commodities are more
> risky then stocks.  They lose a debate with me every single time.  It isn't
> the market, but what you CHOOSE do with the market that creates the greater
> risk scenario.
> >
> > For those who know what to look for and know how to take advantage of
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> >
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> >
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