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'Lenny' 1. You could well have Belgian citizenship, and could get a Belgian passport from the Embassy in London. This would protect you from being kicked out of the UK, but do bear in mind that if you have unresolved obligations in Belgium (such as military service) this can cause problems. Not only in terms of possibly not being able to get a passport, but also problems if you return there. 2. There's probably no entitlement to Italian citizenship. http://www.italianconsulate.bc.ca/English/CittadinanzaENG.html#Anchor-ITALIA-citizenship 3. Did you father hold any form of British nationality or not? 4. If not, as you have a UK born mother and were born in 1969, a recent UK law change will allow you to register as a British citizen by descent. http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/default.asp?PageId=3854 5. However, naturalisation as a British citizen if that's possible would be a better option as it would give you British citizenship otherwise than by descent (and hence the ability to pass on British citizenship to kids born outside the UK) 6. If you do register as a British citizen, you will probably lose your Belgian citizenship. Check with the Belgian authorities in writing if this is important to you. 7. Sounds like you need some professional advice on sorting out your status in the UK. The IAS or JCWI might be able to assist. Contact details are at the following page: http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/default.asp?pageID=39 Jeremy >On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:43:33 GMT, "Barry" <bernard.verona@(Unwanted)cgocable.ca> >wrote: >Since you are already in the UK and if all your details have been removed, >it's likely that your whereabouts are known to the authorities but they >don't appear to have arrested you for deportation purposes. After all, where >would they deport you to with both Belgium and Italy being part of the EC, >you are permitted to move freely within those countries and the UK. > >You could try applying for permanent residence and go through all the >formalities associated with that but you should take legal advise. Try >looking through Google at UK Immigration sites for starters and if you can >find a regulation that falls within your boundaries, go with that. But first >look for a Solicitor or Human Rights Group who will be familiar with >applications for residency as they may offer advice for free, at least >initially. > >HTH > >Barry >"Lenny Montana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> its a bit of a long story but i'll do my best to cut it short and fill >> in details later, .. i was born in 1969 in sicily while my parents >> were travelling abroad, my mother is english but my father is belgian >> with belgian parents, i have not heard from my father for many years >> but he did register my birth at the local consulate in palermo. giving >> me a consular birth certificate with his name and nationality on it >> and mine.. although it is hand written in italian, it does >> nether-the-less look official enough to me. >> i travelled around europe alot in my youth using the yearly visitors >> passports untill they were discontinued a few years ago, i have also >> been away once since then sneaking out of the country (it was a >> necessary trip) and then getting re-patriated from the embassy in >> holland, ie, they thought i was british enough to send me home! >> >> so thats a bit of background.... now a few weeks ago i decided it was >> time to apply for my full passport, so i went through all the usual >> and sent off a nice neat'n'complete set of forms. a couple of weeks >> later i received a letter back informing me that: 'british passports >> are usually reserved for british citizens, british citizens abroad and >> members of her majestys dependent colonys within the commonwealth, you >> do not appear to hold any of these statuses'.... in other words a >> polite way of saying 'are you taking the piss?!' >> >> now, their line at the passport office was 'second generation born >> abroad' meaning that, myself and my father were both born abroad by >> foreign fathers and in the '60s your fathers line was all important, >> your mothers was irrelevant. >> ..allthough ironically had i been born IN the UK even with chinese >> parents, under 1960s law i would have been 'british by birth'. sadly >> thats not the case. >> >> i dont want to post too many personal details here, but suffice to >> say that my name is not lenny montana!, i have a french sounding name, >> and father and was born in italy,.. so allthough i am as britisher >> sounding bloke as you would ever meet i do concede that on paper it >> looks pretty much like a classic imigration hopefull case, and with >> the way things have been tightened up recently, it looks like i have >> been caught in the net. the other point being that neither italy nor >> belgium want anything to do with me either. >> >> now if you can bear with me a little longer, the story is not quite >> over, i must now mention that i had my arm amputated a couple of years >> ago after an accident so although i do some 'freelance' web work i am >> not in the workforce as such at the moment and do recieve a lifetime >> disabilty benefit from the dss. This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
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