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"Markiosi Probertios1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > "Organic Living" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Re: your barmicidal post.. > > The info you found below may sound ok to you.. But you might want to > get your head around the fact that many products now have to lists > ingredients in personal care items from highest content, to lowest > content. Both these ingredients are found in a range of products. You > will usually find SLS in the top 3. (Both forms are still widely used.. > > First, stop posting in HTML. > > Second, prove that both are used, that the amount used is of a doseage > which can be toxic. > > > Like you say.. yes One is "clearly" MORE Toxic than the other.. Check > next time your at the supermakret and see..) Secondly.. the chemicals > are the same in the fact that one is prepared from the other.. No, not even that. Lauryl sulfate is prepared by sulfonating/sulfating lauryl alcohol. Lauryl ether sulfate (laureth sulfate) is prepared by sulfating lauryl oligo(ethyl ether) alcohol. What is true is that lauryl oligo(ethyl ether) alcohol is prepared by ethoxylating lauryl alcohol. However, the biochemical activity of even sodium lauryl sulfate (known to biochemists as SDS, sodium dodecyl sulfate) could not be too great, because it is used in many biochemical experiments, and if it had profound effects in low conentrations, the results would be invalid. Typically SDS is used at high concentration as a denaturant in biochemical systems. If further work is to be done with the materials in a native state, the SDS is dialyzed away. However, scientists are not too concerned about trace amounts of SDS that may remain, as long as the concentrations are low enough not to affect the biologic system being studied. BTW, I have a patent on a bubble bath formula whose preferred versions use neither SLS (SDS) nor SLES. But it's not because of ridiculous claims of toxicity that I left them out! You may read more at http://users.bestweb.net/~robgood/lather.html BTW, I didn't test on animals because it wouldn't've done me any good. However, I have in the past used animals in research where appropriate. But at least now you know how I can write authoritatively on this subject. Robert > thought that going on an organic diet (Free from toxic pesticides and > other nasties) coupled with detoxing your body and home would have > better results than the leading fertility treatments. And for litteral > pennies in comparison. > > Another detoxer! I just love you detoxers. > > Hows the saying go..? > > All truth passes through 3 stages..First it is ridiculed.. Then it is > violently opposed, then it is accepted as if it was known all along.. > > I am sorry to see you at stage 1. > > If I were you, I would be more worried about DiHydrogen Monoxide. It is > a proven dangerous substance, and is found worldwide. The fact that it > is all natural is no protectant. In fact, the discoverer of the danger > of this chemical substance won a science fair! > > Dihydrogen monoxide is colorless, odorless, tasteless, and kills > uncounted thousands of people every year. Most of these deaths are > caused by accidental inhalation of DHMO, but the dangers of dihydrogen > monoxide do not end there. Prolonged exposure to its solid form causes > severe tissue damage. Symptoms of DHMO ingestion can include excessive > sweating and urination, and possibly a bloated feeling, nausea, vomiting > and body electrolyte imbalance. For those who have become dependent, > DHMO withdrawal means certain death. > Dihydrogen monoxide: > > > a.. is also known as hydroxl acid, and is the major component of acid > rain. > b.. contributes to the "greenhouse effect." > c.. may cause severe burns. > d.. contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape. > e.. accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals. > f.. may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of > automobile brakes. > g.. has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients. > Contamination is reaching epidemic proportions! > > Quantities of dihydrogen monoxide have been found in almost every > stream, lake, and reservoir in America today. But the pollution is > global, and the contaminant has even been found in Antarctic ice. DHMO > has caused millions of dollars of property damage in the midwest, and > recently California. > > Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used: > > > a.. as an industrial solvent and coolant. > b.. in nuclear power plants. > c.. in the production of styrofoam. > d.. as a fire retardant. > e.. in many forms of cruel animal research. > f.. in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce > remains contaminated by this chemical. > g.. as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products. > Companies dump waste DHMO into rivers and the ocean, and nothing can be > done to stop them because this practice is still legal. The impact on > wildlife is extreme, and we cannot afford to ignore it any longer! > > The American government has refused to ban the production, distribution, > or use of this damaging chemical due to its "importance to the economic > health of this nation." In fact, the navy and other military > organizations are conducting experiments with DHMO, and designing > multi-billion dollar devices to control and utilize it during warfare > situations. Hundreds of military research facilities receive tons of it > through a highly sophisticated underground distribution network. Many > store large quantities for later use. > > --
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