>First, stop posting in HTML.
Whats wrong with HTML? Even
you use it below.. It makes things more readable, and there is no difference
in size to a small web page. Few Newsgroups even forbid its use
now. This is a legacy concept back in the early days of the Web when
many News browsers only supported text. Are you still using a Old
DOS/Aplle IIE System along with your 20 Year Old Chem Research?
>Second, prove that both are used,
that the amount used is of a doseage which can be toxic.
I don't need to prove
anything. You can prove it for yourself. Like I said Go the
supermarket. And Look on the back of the Shampoo Bottle and Baby Shampoos..
See for yourself.. Is that enough proof?
Like you say.. yes One is
"clearly" MORE Toxic than the other.. Check next time your at the
supermakret and see..) Secondly.. the chemicals are the same in the
fact that one is prepared from the other..
>No, that is NOT true, as the studies
I posted clearly show. they are NOT chemically the same. The only thing that
is similar is the names, and, that is what lying spammers, like yourself, are
relying on to shill for their lying companies.
Of course they are Not
chemically the same, or they would be the same chemical. They have
similar effects and are closely related. Thus they were combined into
the one group. I meant "They are the same in the fact that one is
prepared from the other.." Just a different process is used. Which
creates two different compounds i.e. two different chemicals, thus two
different chemical names.. This relationship is WHY they have the
similar effects and molecular structure.
>What you are doing is propagating an
urban legend:
An urban legend for
some, a true fact for others.. Like I said, this information is part of
fertility treatment that gets better results than IVF.. But you don't seem the
least bit interested in that..
Thirdly one of the biggest issues with these
surfactants is a thing called synergy.. You can, if you feel so inclined
look further into it. In respect of brevity that one paragraph was
enough to prompt someone to investigate for themselves. I would not be
recomending that anyone continue this lab study on their children.
Especially new born babies.
>Talk about scaremongering.
Yes be afraid. Fear is a
natural emotion designed to keep us from harm.
And lastly.. you have to be severely
intellectually challenged by taking chemistry research data that
has more than a 20year Old Date! You should have thrown
in the Chemical report that said chemicals cannot penetrate the skin while
you were at it.. Or those the early
J.A.M.A. Studies that said Smoking did not cause cancer? Or that Mercury in
baby teething gels was safe!
>Can you point out where it has
changed? I took the data from the NIH ToxNET website. It is the premier source
for toxicology information.
Premier source
by who's standards? 20 year old Chemical research data is far from
premier.
You also might want to consider the ethics of
companies that have "Not Tested On Animals" labels on products that contain
these cocktails of toxic chemicals that were tested on animals
too. But I am sure that wouldn't bother you.. But maybe
others..
>G-d put animals on earth so man could
use them.
I didn't think this would
bother you.. There is a difference between "USE" and "Dominion Over".. A Big
difference.. We have choice in our relationship with Nature. Some people
choose to USE and ABUSE it.. Other prefer to work with it and cherish
it. I see where you fit in.
So please forgive me
Mr Probertios for trying to help educate people about these issues as
well as providing the same solution I use for myself and my family.
>I never forgive lying MLM scammers.
yeh whatever.. I think
someone also said "Forgive and you will be forgiven.." So I forgive you
for your arorgance and ignorance. Its just a shame Ignorance isn't
painful.
Solutions that have
been a major part of successful infertility treatment, that the J.AMA has
not even given 1 column centimetre of space to promote.
>JAMA does not promote anything that
does not past rigorous testing. Obviously, yours flunked.
Not quite.. You have no
clue..
Wouldn't want to jeopardise
all that money that pours into the industry from IVF treatment.
Expensive isn't it! Who would have thought that going on an
organic diet (Free from toxic pesticides and other nasties) coupled with
detoxing your body and home would have better results than the leading
fertility treatments. And for litteral pennies in comparison.
>Another detoxer! I just love you
detoxers.
Hows the saying
go..?
All truth passes through 3
stages..First it is ridiculed.. Then it is
violently opposed, then it is accepted as if it was known all
along..
>I am sorry to see you at stage 1.
Yes shows you know nothing
about medical/pharma politics or what is going on right now in the world, to
violent opposition occuring against alternate health and the Pharma Monopolies
trying desperately to reclaim back the 60% market share they have lost over
the last decade to Alt treatments that actualy get results. This 60% market
share has been distributed to many more small businesses and individul
practitioners rather than a select few corporate giants who worship the bottom
dollar, for more so than they are interested in your health and well
being.
Crawl back under your
bridge troll, your a tool and am I not even going to bother with any further
communication.. You have no real interest what soever in the issues
presented.. For someone who claims to have been effected by them, you seem
remarkably intolerant of anothers point of view who is also speaking from
personal experience.
>If I were you, I would be more
worried about DiHydrogen Monoxide. It is a proven dangerous substance, and is
found worldwide. The fact that it is all natural is no protectant. In fact,
the discoverer of the danger of this chemical substance won a science
fair!
You are a
total fool. Maybe we could be so lucky and you would believe the crap
below.. Maybe you should do the world a favour and stop taking/using "Dihydrogen monoxide" yourself. Then we could all happily bury you in
3 days time.
"He was a Man
of Pride and Arrogance.."
"Stubborn and
Unrelenting.."
"Rude and
obnoxious.."
"Supported
animal cruelty for the benefit of his ilk.."
"But at least
he died practicing what he preached.."
"Everyone has
a good point.. He actually believed his own
garbage.."
"May He
RIP.."
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