Re: AFRICA "RICH IN SOLAR, WIND POWE POTENTIAL"

"Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack )"  <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Economic Democracy wrote:
> > 
> > "Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack )"  <[EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > > Economic Democracy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack )"  <[EMAIL 
> > > > PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > > > > Economic Democracy wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BlackWater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Economic Democracy) wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    The initial costs of setting-up wind and solar power
> > > > > > >    systems is pretty damned high. Where are these poor
> > > > > > >    nations going to get the money ? Oh wait ... I'll
> > > > > > >    bet we're supposed to GIVE it to them ......
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Quick test: how many dollars per watt does PV cost? Not
> > > > > > at your fingertips? Why not? Why the quick opinions without even knowing?
> > > > > >
> > > > > What do you mean by 'dollars per watt'?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Even today they can pay for themselves over their lifetimes..
> > > > > > their lifetiems are 25+_ years, so that is an understatement
> > > > > > since they can pay for themselves in 10, 15, ot 20 years at most..
> > > > > > more like 10-15 years in sunny parts of Africa.
> > > > > >
> > > > > And what will the Africans do for electricity when the sun isn't
> > > > > shining?
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps you are will intentioned rather than a provocateur or
> > > > saboteur
> > > >
> > > You are a kook.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > so we will politely mention that both
> > > > questions are answered on page 1 of Solar power 101, in other
> > > > words, read a bit. . .
> > > >
> > > In other words, you don't have a bloody answer.
> > >
> > >
> > > <rest killed for extreme stupidity>
> > 
> > The "rest" included a link where you can
> > find the answers to these questions and
> > learn something.
> > 
> Solar power doesn't work at night. Wind power doesn't work when there is
> no wind. I don't need any websites to know that that means it can't be
> used to provide power at high levels of reliability without some form of
> buffering.

You are a GENUIS! Tell us, you must, must have peeked, right?
No? You figured out that they use batteries all by yourself? Wow!

That's right, at realgoods.com (and elsewhere including cheaper
systems) there are systems that thousands of Americans
have already used to dis-connected 100% from the grid...and
that's without as intense (not as close to the equator) solar
power as Africa, where living 100% off grid is therefore more
technically easy than even in the US.

Anyway, having been proven wrong on "this
is an example of the west telling Africa what to do"
since it was an African newspaper...the subject is 
changed to how these systems work...great...at
least they might find out how scores of Americans
have lived off grid and educate themselves for a bit

next up: "what's this with dollar per watt? Isn't
it supposed to be dollar per watt-hour?"

Answer: yes energy is measured in dollars per watt-hour,
but something else is measure in dollar per watt, read the
dang URL we gave out last time and find out..

(you can get PV for at little as $3.75/watt 
and that's not the kind of savings for government
and large-scale instalations which would be cheaper...
though, we have to say, currently WIND is much
cheaper than solar...and if you count the hidden
costs of coal/oil/gas, on our air pollution
and greenhouse gasses, then wind is cheaper than those
things already today, never mind that prices are
also falling for both wind and solar)

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